LCMS, LCC and NALC Leaders Release Joint Statement on Scripture

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The LCMS and LCC are already in full communion. It is of particular value to note that they’ve included the NALC on several overtures to Continuing Anglican bodies and have worked together again to explain shared views on Scripture:

blogs.lcms.org/2016/leaders-release-joint-statement-on-scripture

The NALC is a conglomeration of disenfranchised formerly-ELCA congregations that left that body when it began celebrating gay marriage. Unlike the Confessional LCMS and LCC, the NALC does ordain women.
 
To bad that they have no way of knowing whether their interpretation of dogma or scripture are correct.
 
steido01 said:
The LCMS and LCC are already in full communion. It is of particular value to note that they’ve included the NALC on several overtures to Continuing Anglican bodies and have worked together again to explain shared views on Scripture:

blogs.lcms.org/2016/leaders-release-joint-statement-on-scripture

The NALC is a conglomeration of disenfranchised formerly-ELCA congregations that left that body when it began celebrating gay marriage. Unlike the Confessional LCMS and LCC, the NALC does ordain women.
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It would be very interesting to see whether or not these talks will result in the NALC re-embracing the Lutheran Confessions and joining the LCMS and the LCC in full communion. 👍
 
steido01 said:
The LCMS and LCC are already in full communion. It is of particular value to note that they’ve included the NALC on several overtures to Continuing Anglican bodies and have worked together again to explain shared views on Scripture:

blogs.lcms.org/2016/leaders-release-joint-statement-on-scripture

The NALC is a conglomeration of disenfranchised formerly-ELCA congregations that left that body when it began celebrating gay marriage. Unlike the Confessional LCMS and LCC, the NALC does ordain women.
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Perhaps the pendulum will swing back to Christ centered values such as embracing the Biblical view of marriage by just such disenfranchised congregations and individuals as well.

Thanks for the link, Don.
 
Behold, how good and pleasant it is when brothers dwell in unity! (Psalm 133:1)
 
LutheranScholar said:
It would be very interesting to see whether or not these talks will result in the NALC re-embracing the Lutheran Confessions and joining the LCMS and the LCC in full communion. 👍
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Wouldn’t that necessitate the NALC cease ordaining women?
 
Padres1969 said:
Wouldn’t that necessitate the NALC cease ordaining women?
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believe it or not, that is actually a possibility. Most female “pastors” in the ELCA stayed on board the mothership when it launched full-hyperspeed ahead into Leftist causes. The few female pastors in the NALC are overwhelmingly outnumbered by males, many of whom are beginning to see the error of ordaining women and, more concretely, imposing quotas on church governance and representation therein. That’s where this all started, frankly.
 
steido01 said:
believe it or not, that is actually a possibility. Most female “pastors” in the ELCA stayed on board the mothership when it launched full-hyperspeed ahead into Leftist causes. The few female pastors in the NALC are overwhelmingly outnumbered by males, many of whom are beginning to see the error of ordaining women and, more concretely, imposing quotas on church governance and representation therein. That’s where this all started, frankly.
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If they do cease ordaining women, on what points would the LCMS, LCC and the NALC still disagree?
 
steido01 said:
The LCMS and LCC are already in full communion. It is of particular value to note that they’ve included the NALC on several overtures to Continuing Anglican bodies and have worked together again to explain shared views on Scripture:

blogs.lcms.org/2016/leaders-release-joint-statement-on-scripture

The NALC is a conglomeration of disenfranchised formerly-ELCA congregations that left that body when it began celebrating gay marriage. Unlike the Confessional LCMS and LCC, the NALC does ordain women.
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So… why are the LCMS and LCC still not united in administration?
 
steido01 said:
believe it or not, that is actually a possibility.
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The female ELCA pastor that married me and my wife led her next ELCA congregation out that particular quagmire and into the NALC and then promptly retired.
 
SyroMalankara said:
So… why are the LCMS and LCC still not united in administration?
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Tax and cultural reasons, mostly.

LCC was spun off of the LCMS when the Canadian government started being really politically correct and slightly protectionist (Quebec kept trying to leave), making things difficult for foreign groups to operate. Canadian congregations had adopted the local Anglican flavors of Divine Worship, whereas American congregations tended to retain German or Scandinavian practice (or, regrettably, adopt some Reformed styles), so there had always been enough of a cultural difference.

The communions are in full pulpit and altar fellowship, so pastors from either can preach in the other and communicants have no difficulty either. They have no theological differences whatsoever. The presidents/bishops of each body take part in the call/installation/consecrations of the other. If ever there were sister churches, these would fit the bill.

So why stay separate? Lutheran fellowship is big on the Two Kingdoms, so they’re a bit like the Orthodox when it comes to national/regional churches. Lutherans also understand ‘church’ to be manifested in the local congregation, so there’s no desire to build a top-down authority. In fact, this has proven to be quite helpful as synods have historically brought other synods back from heterodox practice - not unlike how the various Orthodox churches have excommunicated each other, repented, and reunited.
 
I was a member of an LCMS church for about a year and loved it and in all seriousness, my life has been **** ever since I left it. I let a petty disagreement tick me off to the point I walked away. I am way too much of an emotional purpose, as many of you on here will see in my posts. Good folks in LCMS.
 
total_Catholic said:
I was a member of an LCMS church for about a year and loved it and in all seriousness, my life has been **** ever since I left it. I let a petty disagreement tick me off to the point I walked away. I am way too much of an emotional purpose, as many of you on here will see in my posts. Good folks in LCMS.
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I hear you, man. There are people who happen to attend my parish that I " judicially avoid" too, because we just don’t see eye to eye. I try to remember that church is supposed to be a hospital for sinners and not a museum of saints and that if there was a place filled with perfect people… well, it would be heaven and I’d be dead. I’ll be including your intentions in my prayers when we do the Intercessories tomorrow morning. God bless you, TC.

The people in the LCMS are good people, though, you’re right. They’re quite upfront and direct in their communications, what they expect and they are quite generous in lending a helping hand when needed. Most of them are definitely an inspiration and help in my own walk with Christ.
 
steido01 said:
The LCMS and LCC are already in full communion. It is of particular value to note that they’ve included the NALC on several overtures to Continuing Anglican bodies and have worked together again to explain shared views on Scripture:

blogs.lcms.org/2016/leaders-release-joint-statement-on-scripture

The NALC is a conglomeration of disenfranchised formerly-ELCA congregations that left that body when it began celebrating gay marriage. Unlike the Confessional LCMS and LCC, the NALC does ordain women.
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Unlike the " other " confessional denominations you mean
 
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