Like what? I watched it and didn’t see a horrible amount of inaccurate statements.I watched the video on Wednesday. It’s just the same old tired arguments with a lot of really offensive stuff thrown in. I have generally enjoyed anti-Mormon literature for most of my adult life; but this DVD is more than the standard misinformation you get in a Walter Martin book or Chick pamphlet. They have gone out of their way to offend Mormons and I don’t really see what they expect to accomplish by that.
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The bolded part, in terms of what? If you refer to what I said about small sects competing for converts, well, that is how I “see” the non-Catholic religious situation in America. They ALL dearly love to work on Catholics, but they also dearly love to work on each other. I am reminded of the Southern Baptists sending their people to SLC during the olympics to witness their particular brand of heresy to the heretics.For whatever reason, the Mormon church does tend to collect a fair amount of badly disgruntled former members. When I left the Catholic church to become LDS, I never had any hard feelings towards Catholics. Just the opposite, I felt as though they did me a great service and I did and still do admire them for their many good works. And the Pope is one of the few compassionate, righteous voices left in the world today.
There’s two reasons that I am thinking of that would make people so disgruntled. One is that their conscience really bothers them and it drives them to destroy. The other is that they feel betrayed after giving so much. But maybe it’s just as Allweather says?
There are people who say the lds are wrong on the board. However, you can share your insights in why you chose the path you did. You don’t have to promote your own beliefs but you can have a dialogue about them, Being on this board is easy. But on the other board, you may find your issues are weak or strong.well that 's where I have an issue. I stay here on CAtholic Answers and only respond to mormons who choose to come here seeking…Catholic Answers. I feel that it would be an unwarranted intrusion on my part and extremely disrespectful for me to go to an LDS site and tell them they are wrong. That may sound like strange ethics to you but it’s what I believe. I try my best to explain the truth to those who are seeking it. I define that by their coming here. If a mormon (or any other person) comes here then I think that qualifies as them choosing to hear what i and other Catholics have to say. I understand and accept that they are still free to disagree with I have to say.
I apply the same reasoning in reverse and believe that those who choose to go to LDS sites are expressing a desire to hear what the LDS folks there have to say. I do not seek LDS answers. If I went there it would only be to promote my own beliefs. i see that as little different than handing out anti-mormon pamphlets in front of a temple or general conference. (and yes I think that’s wrong to do)
I will not put anti-mormon DVD’s on anyone doorsteps nor will i seek out LDS to “bash”. I will stay here in the Catholic forum and speak to those who come looking.
Did you read the fair rebuttal that I posted a link too? Since you have feet out the door, you would not find inaccuracies. That is only natural.Like what? I watched it and didn’t see a horrible amount of inaccurate statements.
And such is the word of god among the people. It teaches the body is holy and a temple of god. Be good to your neighbors and be kind to your enemies. Mormons have god in their life and most behave accordingly.No. There is a mormon temple in Mesa but Mesa is now better known as “gangland” rather than “mormonland”
Both my older grandkids graduated from Highland High in Gilbert. The school is fully 85% mormon.
That’s why everyone wants to move there now. Gilbert is clean and safe.
personally, ill take the threat of crime over mormanism anyday.85% mormon. That’s why everyone wants to move there now. Gilbert is clean and safe.
Yes I read it. My feelings are the same. You don’t know me enough to make any judgements about me. I do have to wonder why you fence sit though.Did you read the fair rebuttal that I posted a link too? Since you have feet out the door, you would not find inaccuracies. That is only natural.
en.fairmormon.org/index.php/Search_for_the_Truth_DVD
Yes, there are bookstores that cater only to evangelicals, or at least Protestants in general. I patronize two Catholic bookstores in my town, and have never seen anything in either of them that addresses “witnessing” to Mormons or JWs. The evangelical “Bible Book Store” right around the corner from my house, however, has an entire case full of books specifically targeting all the various sects, and some will also have anti-Catholic materials as well, though this is unusual in my experience.Allweather, I meant that what there’s a lot of competition between the churches. I don’t know if they do it so much any more but there were a few “Christian” bookstores I have visited in my time that would carry books targeting specific religions. Mormons and JW’s were favourties, I think because of their missionary work. Some had anti-Catholic literature which really surprised me.
I don’t know how much money is to be made at the lower levels. By far, most evangelical churches are tiny, and the ministers make very little money. They are very similar to Mormons in this regard. The real money-makers are the ones that build up into mega-church-Christian-centers with tens of thousands of “believers” coming and going, leaving their tithes. Each of these has to have something to distinguish itself from the crowd, so you will see logo’s with professional designs, and names like “Desert Wind Christian Center” or “House of the Lord”.As you know, Mormons don’t have a paid ministry and the Catholics have a very poorly paid ministry but the Evangelicals particularly can make a comfortable sum from their “preaching”. I am speculating on this of course but I think that this is driving some of their efforts.
Depends on what you mean by “slick and business like.” There is businesslike, and then there is businesslike. There has developed a mingling of gospel with business, especially in the U.S., that has clearly gone overboard.Allweather, that’s exactly what I mean. I don’t think it’s so bad to be slick and business like in running your church. People will appreciate nice little touches. But generally when that’s the focus, the gospel isn’t. I guess it’s an inner beauty vs. outer beauty issue. Not that you can’t have both but for it must be the quest for spiritual depth that drives the church leadership.
A couple of times, last time about five years ago. Coincidentally I mentioned that book to someone else, probably in a different thread, a few days ago, saying that the model for the Gantry character is based on a real man. I read an article in which this man was actually identified by name as someone that Lewis met and interviewed at great length while researching for the novel. The Gantry character was different from the model, though, in that the model’d lost his faith (as I recall, memory may be a little off on this) but kept doing Protestant ministry as a job, rather than a religious vocation. Gantry never really lost his faith, he just didn’t practice it very well, and had a pretty distorted idea about the nature of God. Another interesting character in the book is a minister who’d been in Bible college with Gantry, a man who was actually a good, believing, correct-theology minister, one of those that Gantry had done some evil to on more than one occasion. So you have this comparison being made by Lewis between the bad minister, and the good one.Have you ever read Elmer Gantry?
Fence sitting can leave one with an open mind. And if that is the case, fence sitting is not that bad. Just look at the high rollers here who are not fence sitters. The judgements about mormonism come fast and narrow.Yes I read it. My feelings are the same. You don’t know me enough to make any judgements about me. I do have to wonder why you fence sit though.
I fence sat for 10 years it isn’t that glorious. It will bring you to a point you no longer care. We are warned in scripture to not be that way as well. I was like you couldn’t make up my mind between mormonism and Catholicism. I finally made a choice and I am glad I did it has enriched my life. Catholicism is the true church. My eyes have been opened since I made the choice especially. I see mormonism now for what it really is. Sometimes you have to quit waiting for the lighting bolt to hit and just move to action. The Lord will tell you what is right or wrong when you do, but until you make a choice you will be tossed to and fro. It isn’t about being unkind to mormons either. No one here wants to be that way. They want them to see the truth they see.Fence sitting can leave one with an open mind. And if that is the case, fence sitting is not that bad. Just look at the high rollers here who are not fence sitters. The judgements about mormonism come fast and narrow.