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The correct way to say it would be that he saw “two distinct Persons” (see post #2 again for why Trinitarians says “distinct but not separate”). Yes, to an LDS you’re saying the same thing, while in orthodox Trinitarian theology (not limited to Catholicism), you’re not, again because we’re dealing with translations of Greek and Latin words, defined in this specific theological context over a thousand years ago.Very true. I don’t fully understand the difference in the Catholic definition of “persons” and “beings” in describing the Trinity.
For example if I say: “Joseph Smith saw God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ and he saw that they were two separate persons.” Would that be OK?
But if I said: “Joseph Smith saw God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ and he saw that they were two separate beings.” Would that not be OK?
To an LDS I am saying the same thing. What am I saying when speaking to a Catholic? I hope a Catholic will answer this as I am still trying to understand the difference.
Another issue with this is understanding the nature of God and man. In the LDS faith, God and man are of the same nature. There is no ontological distinction between the Divine and man (since man is the literal spiritual offspring of the Father and Mother). The difference between God and man is therefore one of progression or advancement.
In contrast, in Trinitarian faiths, God and man are of different natures, as different as a dog and a cat. While it is accepted that only humans are created in the image and likeness of God, this does not mean, to Trinitarians, that God and man have the same nature. Only the Persons of God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) are of the Divine nature, which is in part what their oneness of “being” (again, also referred to as “nature” or “essence” or “substance”) entails. I believe one of the ECFs said something like “God became man so that man can become, by grace, what God is by nature”. That highlights another important difference.