LDS: what would it take to prove to you Mormonism is false?

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I am just curious, what you it take?

Also, for the former LDS out there, what made you change your mind and leave the LDS church?

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dennisknapp:
I am just curious, what would it take?

Also, for the former LDS out there, what made you change your mind and leave the LDS church?

Peace
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Sorry, typo. The first sentence is now corrected.

Peace
 
Since my conversion came about through a divine and very personal and sacred experience I guess it would take a similar experience of greater magnitude to convince me that I was somehow on the wrong path.

The other issue for me would be were to go if I left the LDS church. I study religion as a hobby and having studied and traveled around the world in pursuit of my hobby I frankly haven’t found a viable alternative that would satisfy me from a doctrinal standpoint.
 
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Casen:
Since my conversion came about through a divine and very personal and sacred experience I guess it would take a similar experience of greater magnitude to convince me that I was somehow on the wrong path.

The other issue for me would be were to go if I left the LDS church. I study religion as a hobby and having studied and traveled around the world in pursuit of my hobby I frankly haven’t found a viable alternative that would satisfy me from a doctrinal standpoint.
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I would echo Casen’s remarks, and only add, as I’m sure is the case with him, that subsequent divine experiences throughout my life have only strengthened my faith that the LDS church is indeed led by Christ.

DeeAnn
 
Are you willing to accept that there are many people in most churches that feel they have received divine validation of their beliefs?

God loves all people of all religions and blesses them how and when he chooses. Some take that to be a confirmation of their church’s validity and some see it just as a blessing from God.

I would hope that God has and will continue to bless you greatly. I certainly see where this would (and should) strengthen your faith in God. I would caution you to see these events as evidence of the LDS church being true. I say this because the exact same claim is made with the same degree of sincerity by JWs, Branch Davidians, Shiite Muslims, and even scientologists.
 
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majick275:
Are you willing to accept that there are many people in most churches that feel they have received divine validation of their beliefs?
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Yes, the difference is that I’m right and they’re all wrong.

Just kidding. Yes, I accept that people in other churches will feel the same as I do and I wouldn’t question their motives or sincerity.
 
Could you share with us your experience?

My friend took me to her Stake, once. It was an evening service.
There was a choir of children and they were singing a beautiful
song. At the very moment they mentioned the name of Jesus in the course of this song, a rushing as of wind came swooping down
over the choir into the audience. It left me breathless, my spine tingling, my knees weak.

It was a feeling not unlike being “slain in the Spirit” which I have since experienced. It was a very definite experience, yet I knew
it was not of God. I have an uncanny gift for discernment, and I was strong enough in my faith at that point not to pay attention to it. Yet, a few years earlier, I may have taken that as a sign. I don’t
mean to imply that your experience was not of God, but, was it
similar to this? It has puzzled me since, because it seems to fit the description in the Bible.

The Mormons I have known all seem to experience similar things. But, as I pointed out to a couple of missionaries recently, there are a lot of things I would have to believe that are a bit far fetched to accept Mormon doctrine. In the first place, where are those alleged tablets? I lived near Palmyra, even went to the pageant
(which is very nice), which is supposedly the very hill where they have been buried, but no one ever seems to find them. The religion is riddled with things like this. Very interesting, though.
The missionaries took a keen interest in my teenage son, by the
way.
 
I was considering becoming LDS for my now ex-girlfriend. I was severely disappointed with the fact that before the 70’s non-whites could not join the priesthood because they were “cursed” with dark skin. It wasn’t just a discipline thing, it was theology! If I’m not mistaken God loves all of his creation equally.The Catholic Church has had its problems throughout history, but it was the hypocritical nature of the leaders, not the actual theology that was the problem. The Holy Trinity is not taught in Mormon theology. I don’t think its wise to ignore the teachings of the earliest Christians and the Apostles who lived and walked with our Lord Jesus Christ. The Apostolic nature of the Church is a safeguard against new and misleading teachings about who Jesus was and is. In light of these facts and others, I decided there was no possible way that I could convert to Mormonism and remain faithful to the God of Christianity. It cost me my relationship and possible marriage to the only girl I’ve ever loved.
 
The sad face is because I’m dating a staunchly Mormon girl, for two years now. She is so far the only girl I’ve ever loved, and we both definitely want to get married, if only we can get our faiths worked out.
 
Yes, believe me I know how hard that is. I don’t really have any advice other than whatever you do stay true to your Catholic faith. I discovered that love comes and goes, but the Church is always there. My ex was an amazing girl, but we saw that it would never work for us in the end. Perhaps God has a different plan for you and your girlfriend. You never really know. Anyhow, I hope things go well! Its not the end of the world if things don’t work out, I’ve met some amazing Catholic women but I think I might even be called to the Priesthood. Every story is different so just wait it out and see.
 
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Cece:
Could you share with us your experience?

My friend took me to her Stake, once. It was an evening service.
There was a choir of children and they were singing a beautiful
song. At the very moment they mentioned the name of Jesus in the course of this song, a rushing as of wind came swooping down
over the choir into the audience. It left me breathless, my spine tingling, my knees weak.

It was a feeling not unlike being “slain in the Spirit” which I have since experienced. It was a very definite experience, yet I knew
it was not of God. I have an uncanny gift for discernment, and I was strong enough in my faith at that point not to pay attention to it.
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Interesting story. Do you have any thoughts why satan (or anyone else who was not a representative of God) would have caused such an experience, especially at the moment that children were singing about Christ? I just find the whole thing kind of puzzling.
Yet, a few years earlier, I may have taken that as a sign. I don’t
mean to imply that your experience was not of God, but, was it
similar to this? It has puzzled me since, because it seems to fit the description in the Bible.
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I can’t say as my experiences have been like that. It’s more a peaceful understanding, and enlightenment. It’s hard to describe, but I know it when I experience it. And time usually validates the impression as I read more or experience similar things.

I have gotten the chills or teared up while listening to beautiful music or listening to an inspiring speaker, and in fact these emotions quote often accompany the peaceful reassurances that I have received. But I’ve never experienced a “swooping”.
The Mormons I have known all seem to experience similar things. But, as I pointed out to a couple of missionaries recently, there are a lot of things I would have to believe that are a bit far fetched to accept Mormon doctrine. In the first place, where are those alleged tablets? I lived near Palmyra, even went to the pageant
(which is very nice), which is supposedly the very hill where they have been buried, but no one ever seems to find them. The religion is riddled with things like this. Very interesting, though.
The missionaries took a keen interest in my teenage son, by the
way.
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thanks for sharing.

DeeAnn
 
to those posters wanting to join our church to please there Girl/boy friends please don’t. If you gain a testomony and are truly converted then thats fine. but just doing something for a girlfriend is not how any church wants to get new members. or am i wrong.
 
Well, I’d personally be okay with it, because I believe that true baptism is just that powerful, but that’s just me. But don’t worry, I won’t be on the rolls any time soon.
 
Brad Haas:
Well, I’d personally be okay with it, because I believe that true baptism is just that powerful, but that’s just me. But don’t worry, I won’t be on the rolls any time soon.
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you would be ok with flirty fishing. as i believe its called in protastant churches. we are not ok with it we believe you should be converted before baptism. you tend to see the ones joining to please somebody else are usually inactive shortly after the person splits up with them.
 
Well, alright, I should say I’d be okay with it only in my particular case. Other than that, it’s a bad idea.
 
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