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Lucky7 said:
Wow…I found this fascinating!

*All ministers of the Eucharist must deny Communion to pro abortion legislators as they are ecclesiastically bound to obey Church law, regardless of whether their bishop or pastor does or does not obey. In fact, canon 915 places the responsibility on the minister - ‘ne admittantur’ - who, in some canonists’ opinion, could be punished themselves according to canon 1389 §2, **should he unlawfully administer the sacrament with the consequent danger of scandal. *

So, in other words, if I were an EM at the Palm Sunday Mass and Biden came up to me I would be obligated to deny him communion…even if Cardinal Dolan does not??? An I reading that correctly?
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Sounds like you are, Lucky. It says “regardless of whether their bishop or pastor does or does not obey…” This is something I never knew. Thanks for the quote! 🙂
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
It has happened. catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=843

Which begs the question: if this good bishop can refuse, then obviously refusal is allowed, so why are we not seeing more refusals?
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Actually refusal is what is expected; it is the non-refusal which is “allowed”. In other wors, refusal is the default. However, apparently bishops don’t have to follow the law. There are some who believe “pastoral” reasons overrule.
 
Lucky7 said:
Wow…I found this fascinating!

*All ministers of the Eucharist must deny Communion to pro abortion legislators as they are ecclesiastically bound to obey Church law, regardless of whether their bishop or pastor does or does not obey. In fact, canon 915 places the responsibility on the minister - ‘ne admittantur’ - who, in some canonists’ opinion, could be punished themselves according to canon 1389 §2, **should he unlawfully administer the sacrament with the consequent danger of scandal. *

So, in other words, if I were an EM at the Palm Sunday Mass and Biden came up to me I would be obligated to deny him communion…even if Cardinal Dolan does not??? An I reading that correctly?
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It would seem so.

Would be ironic (for me) if EM’s (that I certainly am no fan of) were the ones who brought this to a head.
 
Lucky7 said:
Nothing you have written makes me feel any better. QUOTE]
That, I can understand…though I am slow…
Like right now I should be ironing.So if I can hear this,off I go!.
God bless you all:)
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Pope Francis just appointed Franciscan Father Jose Rodriguez Carballo to the Vaticans congregation for censecrated religious, the Popes first curial appointment. Anyone, maybe Br. JR, know anything about him?
 
Here’s a report from Vatican Radio on another great homily from Pope Francis:

Giving witness to the whole of the faith with courage: this is the invitation launched this morning by Pope Francis during the Mass he celebrated in the chapel of the Casa Santa Marta. …

In his brief sermon, the Pope commented on the readings for Saturday of the Octave of Easter: the first finds Peter and John bearing witness with courage to the faith before the Jewish heads despite threats, while in the Gospel the risen Jesus reprimands the incredulity of the Apostles who don’t believe those who state that they have seen Him alive.

The Pontiff asked this question: “How’s our faith? Is it strong? Or is it sometimes a bit superficial? (all’acqua di rose – “like rose water”, meaning banal, an insufficient substitute, shallow, inadequate)” When difficulties come, “are we courageous like Peter or a little lukewarm?” Peter – he pointed out– didn’t stay silent about the Faith, he din’t descend to compromises, because “the Faith isn’t negotiable.” “There has been, throughout history of the people, this temptation: to chop a piece off the Faith”, the temptation to be a bit “like everyone else does”, the temptation “not to be so very rigid”. “But when we start to cut down the Faith, to negotiate Faith, a little like selling it to the highest bidder”, he stressed, “we take the path of apostasy, of disloyalty to the Lord.”

Pope Francis emphasized that in its history the Church has had many martyrs, down to this day, “because to find martyrs it isn’t necessary to go down to the catacombs or to the Colosseum: martyrs are alive now, in many countries.” “Christians”, Pope Francis stated, “are persecuted for the Faith. In some countries they can’t wear a cross: if they do so they are punished. Today, in the 21st century, our Church is a Church of martyrs.”

I love this! Trying to find a translation of the whole homily…
 
McCall1981 said:
Here’s a report from Vatican Radio on another great homily from Pope Francis:

Giving witness to the whole of the faith with courage: this is the invitation launched this morning by Pope Francis during the Mass he celebrated in the chapel of the Casa Santa Marta. …

In his brief sermon, the Pope commented on the readings for Saturday of the Octave of Easter: the first finds Peter and John bearing witness with courage to the faith before the Jewish heads despite threats, while in the Gospel the risen Jesus reprimands the incredulity of the Apostles who don’t believe those who state that they have seen Him alive.

The Pontiff asked this question: “How’s our faith? Is it strong? Or is it sometimes a bit superficial? (all’acqua di rose – “like rose water”, meaning banal, an insufficient substitute, shallow, inadequate)” When difficulties come, “are we courageous like Peter or a little lukewarm?” Peter – he pointed out– didn’t stay silent about the Faith, he din’t descend to compromises, because “the Faith isn’t negotiable.” “There has been, throughout history of the people, this temptation: to chop a piece off the Faith”, the temptation to be a bit “like everyone else does”, the temptation “not to be so very rigid”. “But when we start to cut down the Faith, to negotiate Faith, a little like selling it to the highest bidder”, he stressed, “we take the path of apostasy, of disloyalty to the Lord.”

Pope Francis emphasized that in its history the Church has had many martyrs, down to this day, “because to find martyrs it isn’t necessary to go down to the catacombs or to the Colosseum: martyrs are alive now, in many countries.” “Christians”, Pope Francis stated, “are persecuted for the Faith. In some countries they can’t wear a cross: if they do so they are punished. Today, in the 21st century, our Church is a Church of martyrs.”

I love this! Trying to find a translation of the whole homily…
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McCall1981 said:
I love this! Trying to find a translation of the whole homily…
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I can help you with that. I do not know if I can translate it all,but I found some more to add to what you wrote. If you can wait,I´ll do my best.
 
McCall1981 said:
Here’s a report from Vatican Radio on another great homily from Pope Francis:

Giving witness to the whole of the faith with courage: this is the invitation launched this morning by Pope Francis during the Mass he celebrated in the chapel of the Casa Santa Marta. …

In his brief sermon, the Pope commented on the readings for Saturday of the Octave of Easter: the first finds Peter and John bearing witness with courage to the faith before the Jewish heads despite threats, while in the Gospel the risen Jesus reprimands the incredulity of the Apostles who don’t believe those who state that they have seen Him alive.

The Pontiff asked this question: “How’s our faith? Is it strong? Or is it sometimes a bit superficial? (all’acqua di rose – “like rose water”, meaning banal, an insufficient substitute, shallow, inadequate)” When difficulties come, “are we courageous like Peter or a little lukewarm?” Peter – he pointed out– didn’t stay silent about the Faith, he din’t descend to compromises, because “the Faith isn’t negotiable.” “There has been, throughout history of the people, this temptation: to chop a piece off the Faith”, the temptation to be a bit “like everyone else does”, the temptation “not to be so very rigid”. “But when we start to cut down the Faith, to negotiate Faith, a little like selling it to the highest bidder”, he stressed, “we take the path of apostasy, of disloyalty to the Lord.”

Pope Francis emphasized that in its history the Church has had many martyrs, down to this day, “because to find martyrs it isn’t necessary to go down to the catacombs or to the Colosseum: martyrs are alive now, in many countries.” “Christians”, Pope Francis stated, “are persecuted for the Faith. In some countries they can’t wear a cross: if they do so they are punished. Today, in the 21st century, our Church is a Church of martyrs.”

I love this! Trying to find a translation of the whole homily…
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Um, yeah, I’m liking this stuff…A LOT. Please do post if you find it.
 
Sorry…the excerpt I had found was not Saturday´s. It will come out in due time.The link may remain useful.
 
Santi2 said:
Differences in approach and opinions with regards refusal. A case in point:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=650147

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=654445
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I’m not sure I see this case as apples to apples. However, I do find it disconcerting that, if this priest knew for a fact that this woman had not confessed prior to receiving and knew that she was living as a lesbian, he was disciplined for protecting the Body and Blood of our Lord from sacrilege.

There is something terribly wrong when there are exceptions for sacrilege.

I was reading up on Pope Pius V and one of the things he did in his reform of the Church in the late 1500’s was restricting the use of dispensations from Church law. Perhaps we will see Pope Francis address this. I keep thinking back to Pope Francis’ early visit to Pius V’s tomb and keep hoping he will folllow in many of his footsteps. I have already seen some similarities including traditional dress! Pope Pius V was the Pope who changed the Pope’s dress to the white Dominican dress.
 
Lucky7 said:
How many want to take a bet that it won’t make it into the mainstream media?
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Oh come on, Im sure any minute now they’ll cover it with a thoughtful and respectful article on the importance of doctrine in Catholicism; maybe they’ll touch on the evils of moral relativism too. Any minute now…

😉
 
jwinch2 said:
I’ve read the threads thank you and no, I am not making any assumptions about what has or has not been exhausted regarding the ritual of foot washing. I prefer to look at what previous popes have stated, and then ask whether or not what is happening now is in continuity with that. In addition, yes, the pope can violate the rubrics of the Mass, as we just saw last Thursday. If popes wish to change the Mass, what has been done in the past is that they issue a statement or declaration to that affect, explaining why and what it means PRIOR to celebrating the Mass in this way.

And don’t even try to tell me that this will not be taken as some as a push for women’s ordination, because it is already happening. thetimes.co.uk/tto/faith/article3726461.ece
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I’m still interested in finding which law it is that constrains the Pope in the mode/manner in which he grants dispensations that he himself is applying for(to himself), for a Mass that he himself will be celebrating. Clearly he was well within the law to make his decision:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_dispensation
 
Another tremedous homily from Pope Francis on Divine Mercy Sunday:

news.va/en/news/pope-have-the-courage-to-return-to-god
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  1. I would like to emphasize one other thing: God’s patience has to call forth in us the courage to return to him, however many mistakes and sins there may be in our life. Jesus tells Thomas to put his hand in the wounds of his hands and his feet, and in his side. We too can enter into the wounds of Jesus, we can actually touch him. This happens every time that we receive the sacraments with faith. Saint Bernard, in a fine homily, says: “Through the wounds of Jesus I can suck honey from the rock and oil from the flinty rock (cf. Deut 32:13), I can taste and see the goodness of the Lord” (On the Song of Songs, 61:4). It is there, in the wounds of Jesus, that we are truly secure; there we encounter the boundless love of his heart. Thomas understood this. Saint Bernard goes on to ask: What can I count on? On my own merits? No, “My merit is God’s mercy. I am by no means lacking merits as long as he is rich in mercy. If the mercies of the Lord are manifold, I too will abound in merits” (ibid., 5). This is important: the courage to trust in Jesus’ mercy, to trust in his patience, to seek refuge always in the wounds of his love. Saint Bernard even states: “So what if my conscience gnaws at me for my many sins? ‘Where sin has abounded, there grace has abounded all the more’ (Rom 5:20)” (ibid.). But some of us may think: my sin is so great, I am as far from God as the younger son in the parable, my unbelief is like that of Thomas; I don’t have the courage to go back, to believe that God can welcome me and that he is waiting for me, of all people. But God is indeed waiting for you; he asks of you only the courage to go to him. How many times in my pastoral ministry have I heard it said: “Father, I have many sins”; and I have always pleaded: “Don’t be afraid, go to him, he is waiting for you, he will take care of everything”. We hear many offers from the world around us; but let us take up God’s offer instead: his is a caress of love. For God, we are not numbers, we are important, indeed we are the most important thing to him; even if we are sinners, we are what is closest to his heart.
    Adam, after his sin, experiences shame, he feels naked, he senses the weight of what he has done; and yet God does not abandon him: if that moment of sin marks the beginning of his exile from God, there is already a promise of return, a possibility of return. God immediately asks: “Adam, where are you?” He seeks him out. Jesus took on our nakedness, he took upon himself the shame of Adam, the nakedness of his sin, in order to wash away our sin: by his wounds we have been healed. Remember what Saint Paul says: “What shall I boast of, if not my weakness, my poverty? Precisely in feeling my sinfulness, in looking at my sins, I can see and encounter God’s mercy, his love, and go to him to receive forgiveness.
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