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Daisy from The Great Gatsby. I just wanted to smack her the entire book…its in my top 5 favorite books of all time but I absolutely can’t stand Daisy.
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NoxSineStellae
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Oh, I’m quite sure
I’ve seen every episode multiple times. Mental As Anything in season 4 wraps up the Macton/Lo’Laan storyline and clearly establishes that D’Argo used to beat Lo’Laan when he was experiencing bouts of hyper rage (to me that’s no excuse at all, plenty of human men do horrible things when “driven to hyper rage” because they think they were insulted, crossed, they’re frustrated with work, etc, and we don’t look kindly on their excuses, apologies and promises never to do it again.Anyway, D’Argo did beat Lo’Laan, although he was unaware of it. You are correct that Macton killed her, but it happened by accident, while Macton and D’Argo were fighting - Macton had confronted him about beating his sister. And since D’Argo blacks out during his rages, Macton viewed it as avenging his sister to pretend he had nothing to do with it, and frame D’Argo.
Initially either Kemper or O’Bannon (I forget which) wanted to have it revealed that D’Argo actually had killed Lo’Laan, all by himself, but the other objected. I think it would have been fantastic story-wise, and original, and infinitely better, character-wise, for D’Argo to have realized he was guilty. It certainly wouldn’t have been a stretch to believe - look at how quick he is to threaten, punch, shove, and belittle even the people he calls his friends. But he grew SO much during his time on Moya (after *Revenging Angel *, when he put his best friend in a coma and had Jool cowering tearfully and asking if he was going to kill her for touching his stuff, he seemed to learn a semi-lesson and reserved the vitriol and brutality mainly for Chiana - though that seemed extra cruel in season 4…he didn’t know about her rape, but we did, and heck, he should have realized something horrible had happened to her just by the way she looked and behaved).
I think it could have been particularly poignant, and allowed him to grow even further. Maybe he even would have been able to finally own up to his large part in the destruction of his relationship with Chiana, and earned back the respect of a lot of viewers.
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NoxSineStellae
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I completely agree and used to rant about this to my husband (a huge Superman/SpiderMan/Batman fan) all the time. But I had an interesting experience about a year ago - I signed up for two night classes in the community, Tai Chi and Bellydance. Tai Chi came first, the teacher was a somewhat slouchy woman named Liz, with glasses, a messy ponytail, in very shapeless sweats that made her look overweight. She spoke softly, and was very bumbling in her explanations of things.
Two nights later Bellydance began. The teacher, Hadara, walks in - long flowing hair, exotic bellydance clothing (with great abs showing), no glasses, clear and assertive instructions, lots of confidence - who was sooooo much like Liz. It took me until the end of the first lesson to be convinced they were the same, and would probably still be wondering if they were twins or something if she hadn’t used exactly the same phrasing at one point.
It was very disconcerting, and I had to go apologize to DH. But still, you’d think people that were around Clark and Superman for more than a very short while could figure it out - the glasses and spitty curl can’t make that much difference. DH says he “uses a higher pitch” with his Clark Kent voice, but that just makes the whole thing seem sillier
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Ah, Mr. Wickham! One of the most vilest, evilest, back-biting, self-indulgent, self-serving, vengeful characters ever written. Mr. Collins is, at the very least, somewhat amusing. There is nothing funny about Mr. Wickham! Ugh!
(Can you tell I’m a big P&P fan?)
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Gamera
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It’s between Jan Spears on “Days of Our Lives” and Rack Hansen in “Kingdom of the Spiders.” Probably Jan because we had to put up with her day in, day out.
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BradW
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Gavrouche, the little “miserable” from Les Miserables. I’ve never cheered at a death scene until his.
Somehow I missed seeing that we could name MOVIE characters…
In that category, hands down, no question… Jack and Rose from Titanic. That damn iceberg couldn’t show up fast enough to suit me. I could have done without the lust story and focused on the other passengers (still think that A Night to Remember was a far better movie about the “Titanic”.)
In that category, hands down, no question… Jack and Rose from Titanic. That damn iceberg couldn’t show up fast enough to suit me. I could have done without the lust story and focused on the other passengers (still think that A Night to Remember was a far better movie about the “Titanic”.)
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AquinaSavio
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Anyone from The House of Seven Gables. 
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Biblioassistant
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Holden Caulfield from Catcher in the Rye. Self obsessed little narcissist! I can’t stand whiney angsty teens in fiction one little bit.
Oddly enough, I am a good listener and have counseled whiney, angsty teens in real life. Go figure.
BTW, they are movie characters, but still fictional - the kids in **Rebel Without a Cause **are a bunch of crybabies. They need to get a job or something and quit whining.
Oddly enough, I am a good listener and have counseled whiney, angsty teens in real life. Go figure.
BTW, they are movie characters, but still fictional - the kids in **Rebel Without a Cause **are a bunch of crybabies. They need to get a job or something and quit whining.
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NoxSineStellae
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Oh my gosh, yes! I can’t believe I forgot Holden Caulfield. He’s my #2 most hated character in literature, after Dr. Zhivago. I couldn’t stand him or the book, and I read it during the height of my angsty rebellious teen years. I remember hoping the character would kill himself, so he’d finally shut up.
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Linnyo
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I don’t like Rumpelstiltskin. He was mean trying to get the princess’s baby. And to add to it, he was very thick to do a wee dance singing his name!
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cyberwolf001
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Kevin Kinkirk of 7th Heaven.
The guy treats his wife like a retarded child in every episode I’ve seen and at points even seemed to sabotage her life
Seriously I once though of doing a fan fic of Lucy wanting a pet goldfish and Kevin not letting her as it would be an awesome responsibility… Possible too much for her to handle…
The guy treats his wife like a retarded child in every episode I’ve seen and at points even seemed to sabotage her life
Seriously I once though of doing a fan fic of Lucy wanting a pet goldfish and Kevin not letting her as it would be an awesome responsibility… Possible too much for her to handle…
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Ohhh i sooo have it in for Orochimaru from Naruto… How dare he kidnap Sasuke… Then Neji got hurt real bad trying to save him… Evil caniving little… welllll you get the idea…
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Isn’t it funny that 2 people can watch the same show, see the same characters, and come away with 2 entirely different opinions of the same character. I never considered D’Argo to be a wife-beater, because to me that implies that he had knowledge of the action and the intent to commit it. To me, he was a victim of his physiology (for lack of a better phrase), in that the Luxan hyper rage was inherent to Luxan males, and it was something that often took many cycles to master and subdue.Oh, I’m quite sure
Anyway, D’Argo did beat Lo’Laan, although he was unaware of it. You are correct that Macton killed her, but it happened by accident, while Macton and D’Argo were fighting - Macton had confronted him about beating his sister. And since D’Argo blacks out during his rages, Macton viewed it as avenging his sister to pretend he had nothing to do with it, and frame D’Argo.
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I like that, that we can have different opinions about the same show
It makes it more interesting. I know my opinion was formed by my real life experiences - having lived with a man - my father - who was “prone to fits of hyper rage” over which he claimed no control, because that’s the way he was made, and who constantly controlled us, manipulated us, verbally and mentally abused us, and eventually moved onto physical abuse, I just couldn’t see the good in D’Argo. Some of the things that came out of his mouth were word for word the same as things my dad has said - the reactions to situations, the ‘poor me, I’m trying so hard, I’m such a good person who’s driven to this by other people, I don’t remember what I did, never my fault’…we just weren’t buying what he was selling. My dad could also be very charming, gentle, and sweet, when the spirit moved him. It didn’t make everything else disappear.But I can see how if someone hasn’t had real life experience with a personality-type like D’Argo’s, I can believe he comes off as conflicted, interesting, heroic. And I think that Anthony Simcoe is a fantastic actor who has great chemistry with the rest of the cast. I don’t think I would have enjoyed the show as much without D’Argo (Jool is another story, I found her completely useless) and the character added a lot. I just don’t find him to be the great guy many people do. He scares me even, usually when he’s being nice, because I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Drawlight > Vinculus. I thought that book was painfully self-conscious and dragged itself out into 800 pages when it could have been much better told more plainly. And to me, Vinculus and his tarot deck is a symbol of that.
However, Vinculus is not my most hated character; I was just saying that because Drawlight diverted me in a sarcastic way. Dunno know my least favorite is.
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And then Sasuke ended up going with Orochimaru of his own free will, and then — but I dunno if you’ve been watching the fansubbed episodes on the internet or reading the scanlated manga, so I won’t tell you. But it’s awesome.
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I’m so sorry you had to live through all that. I have some idea of the consequences a person suffers even after leaving such a situation (my own mother grew up under similar conditions), so I can absolutely see why you have the opinion you do.I like that, that we can have different opinions about the same show
Now, on THAT we completely agree!! Is it too late to change my answer to the original question???
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Now, on THAT we completely agree!! Is it too late to change my answer to the original question???
I used to bristle with resentment at Jool’s very presence on the screen - I never felt she fit in, either with the stories or the other characters. The abrasive spoiled princess act annoyed me too much, and became completely unenjoyable. She felt very much like a forced replacement for Zhaan, to even up the genders, and I thought it was unnecessary. And I would get so mad any time they focused on her at all, because I wanted that time devoted to the Nebari threat, Rygel’s return to Hyneria, or even something about D’Argo
I’ve since seen Tammy MacIntosh on All Saints, and like her enough there that I no longer hate Jool, but she still annoys me more than any other character.
Now Sikozu on the other hand…I thought she clicked immediately. I loved her chemistry with the entire cast, particularly with Chiana. Their fighting and sniping seemed more authentic than Chiana/Jool, and was tinged with such an odd, yet genuine tenderness, especially on the part of Sikozu. Great, unique friendship. And the Katratzi scene in Constellation of Doubt between Sikozu and John just blows me away every time.
I’m sorry about what your mom went through as well
One thing I’m trying to do while rewatching Farscape again, is to see D’Argo with more objective eyes, and say something nice about him every episode. Sometimes it’s as simple as ‘he didn’t yell for as long as I expected’, but other times I have a whole list Other hated Farscape character - Grayza. Pure evil that one. I make and play Farscape Sims, I have a Scorpius that’s the good kind of evil, and so much fun to play with, he runs around town and causes all sorts of trouble. But I can’t bring myself to make a Grayza…I’m too protective of my other sims to inflict her on them
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Another one: Joel Goodson in “Risky Business.” How dare that little brat disgrace his parents like that. I hope he did go on to become a pimp … and went to state prison for it.
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