Leaving before commuion?

[Chuck1]

Hi I was wondering I see people not going up for commiuon and or leaving straight after what is the reasons for this ? Also why do people leave straight after commuion and not for the last hym ?
I know it sounds stupid I was just wondering if u c what I mean ?
Thanks chuck

 

[YoungTradCath]

If people don’t go up for communion, then they’re either not Catholic and thus unable to receive communion, or don’t want to receive communion in that instance. It’s only required to receive communion once a year. By the way, as you aren’t Catholic yet, you shouldn’t be receiving communion, Chuck. You never directly said you did, but the way you phrase your question makes me think that perhaps you have.

And as to why people leave after receiving communion, I have no idea. I think it’s extremely disrespectful. It is required that, as a Catholic, you ATTEND mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation, not that you receive communion every time you attend mass. If you don’t stay for the whole thing, then you really haven’t attended mass, and in all honesty, you haven’t satisfied your obligation. It’s true that sometimes people have time constraints and whatnot, but it’s usually the same people who leave early, time and time again.

 

[Chuck1]

Hi thanks for response , yes I think it’s Disrespectful aswellI i agree , and I havnt recited commuion I know not to do that thanks again

 

[NewsTheMan]

Hi I was wondering I see people not going up for commiuon and or leaving straight after what is the reasons for this ? Also why do people leave straight after commuion and not for the last hym ?
I know it sounds stupid I was just wondering if u c what I mean ?
Thanks chuck

Not stupid at all.

People who don’t go up for Holy Communion usually fall into 2 categories:

1. Catholics not adequately disposed to receive the Eucharist. So, they either didn’t obey the 1 hour fast, they do not feel spiritually prepared or they are in a state of mortal sin.
2. Non-Catholics.

As for those who leave straight after Holy Communion they are disrespectful, rude and sinning unless there is an emergency. One does not simply leave the Mass when one feels like it. That would be to treat the Eucharist as some kind of candy machine where once the goods have been gotten you can get out of there ASAP. These people fail to see the significance of the Mass in their lives. Sometimes, though, people have legitimate reasons.

 

[Bohm_Bawerk]

As for those who leave straight after Holy Communion they are disrespectful, rude and sinning unless there is an emergency. One does not simply leave the Mass when one feels like it. That would be to treat the Eucharist as some kind of candy machine where once the goods have been gotten you can get out of there ASAP. These people fail to see the significance of the Mass in their lives. Sometimes, though, people have legitimate reasons.

You can’t say they are sinning because the Church has not (and can not) declared how long you have to be at Mass to fulfill your Sunday obligation.

As for whether it’s disrespectful, that’s a cultural matter and not a spiritual/theological one. Some people may have legitimate reasons. It’s best not to dwell on the actions of others. It’s always good to think best of those around you

 

[Dorothy]

You can’t say they are sinning because the Church has not (and can not) declared how long you have to be at Mass to fulfill your Sunday obligation.

As for whether it’s disrespectful, that’s a cultural matter and not a spiritual/theological one. Some people may have legitimate reasons. It’s best not to dwell on the actions of others. It’s always good to think best of those around you

Yes, we should always think of the best case scenario of why they are leaving early, and one can also say a prayer for them.

 

[NewsTheMan]

You can’t say they are sinning because the Church has not (and can not) declared how long you have to be at Mass to fulfill your Sunday obligation.

I’m about to go to bed so I can’t find anything now but this is incorrect as far as I am aware. The Church has, and can, declare how long you must be at Mass in order to fulfil the obligation. Otherwise, I could just pop in for 3 seconds and pop out again. One must at the very least stay until the Priests Communion to fulfil the obligation to ‘assist’ at a Mass (this is the actual obligation; the word attendance makes the waters muddy). If you leave before then, you need to go to another Mass.

As for the sin; it would fall into venial sin or imperfection. To just leave straight after Communion is to not respect the sacrifice of the Mass, and to thus disrespect Christ in the tabernacle and (if you have received the Eucharist) to disrespect yourself as a ‘living tabernacle’. Leave it up the individual conscience, though.

As for whether it’s disrespectful, that’s a cultural matter and not a spiritual/theological one.

No it isn’t. Culture can have nothing to say since the Mass is not a product of culture or a reflection of culture intended to bring something to the people. It is the universal sacrifice of the Mass and the representation of Christ on the Cross which we attend in order to lift our hearts, minds and bodies up to the Lord. Even if a certain culture believes that leaving the meal for no good reason while the host is still serving the main meal is polite (which is doubtful) this does not move into our understanding of the Mass.

Some people may have legitimate reasons.

I don’t doubt that, and I have said as much.

It’s best not to dwell on the actions of others.

Asking a simple question about others’ actions is not “dwelling” on anything.

It’s always good to think best of those around you

I agree.

 

[halleone]

Some people have urgent things to attend to. This Sunday I may only be able to stick my head in the door, maybe stand momentarily in the back. My husband is in ICU in the hospital across the street and I do not know what the outcome will be, but I will try my best to at least come inside if I can. My emotions may not let me.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Yes, we should always think of the best case scenario of why they are leaving early, and one can also say a prayer for them.

I can’t judge anyone who leaves early; they may have an emergency. However, I can’t believe that half the people in the church all have an emergency - and every Sunday.

 

[Kielbasi]

I’m about to go to bed so I can’t find anything now but this is incorrect as far as I am aware. The Church has, and can, declare how long you must be at Mass in order to fulfil the obligation. Otherwise, I could just pop in for 3 seconds and pop out again. One must at the very least stay until the Priests Communion to fulfil the obligation to ‘assist’ at a Mass (this is the actual obligation; the word attendance makes the waters muddy). If you leave before then, you need to go to another Mass.

Actually according to the pre-1983 canons, the requirement for the faithful was to be at Mass from the Offertory through the priest’s communion.

However, the current rules don’t specify any exact time you must be there for.

 

[Dorothy]

I can’t judge anyone who leaves early; they may have an emergency. However, I can’t believe that half the people in the church all have an emergency - and every Sunday.

You are right about that! I mention thinking of the best case scenario so that we don’t get aggravated and upset.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

My pastor once told the RCIA class that you have missed part of the mass if you go to bed Saturday night before going over the readings for Sunday. He was only half kidding.

 

[TrueLight]

Actually according to the pre-1983 canons, the requirement for the faithful was to be at Mass from the Offertory through the priest’s communion.

However, the current rules don’t specify any exact time you must be there for.

Why are you all the rules more relaxed these days?

 

[Dorothy]

Actually according to the pre-1983 canons, the requirement for the faithful was to be at Mass from the Offertory through the priest’s communion.

However, the current rules don’t specify any exact time you must be there for.

Where can those current rules be found?

 

[ConstantineTG]

Hi I was wondering I see people not going up for commiuon and or leaving straight after what is the reasons for this ? Also why do people leave straight after commuion and not for the last hym ?
I know it sounds stupid I was just wondering if u c what I mean ?
Thanks chuck

Why do you want to know? There could be so many possible reasons. Some of them understandable, some of them unreasonable. Maybe they can only attend that Mass time, then they have to be in for duty as a nurse in the hospital, or something like that.

 

[YoungTradCath]

I would like to make known that, when I was a Baptist in a semi-mega church, it was almost unknown to leave the “service” early. It just was not done. To do so would be a major faux pas.

 

[Bohm_Bawerk]

Why are you all the rules more relaxed these days?

It has nothing to do with a relaxation of rules (again, a myth purported by some Traditionalists on CAF), as it is that the Church is very wise on remaining quiet about this issue. If the Church said you had to be at Mass for so-and-so time, it would encourage people to leave Mass early. People would think, “hey, I fulfilled the Sunday obligation so now I can leave”. People would end up thinking the remaining portion of Mass was redundant. What’s worse is that people would then use Church teaching to justify their actions - you would get what we call over here as “smart alecs”.

Therefore, the Church has kept quiet on this so as to allow the cultural influence to be the “de facto” rule. It is generally regarded in the Western world to be rude to leave Mass early. The Church has wisely hidden behind what is a cultural norm to implement what they believe is implicitly correct, even though for all intents and purposes, it is not a rule set in stone .

 

[ConstantineTG]

It has nothing to do with a relaxation of rules (again, a myth purported by some Traditionalists on CAF), as it is that the Church is very wise on remaining quiet about this issue. If the Church said you had to be at Mass for so-and-so time, it would encourage people to leave Mass early. People would think, “hey, I fulfilled the Sunday obligation so now I can leave”. People would end up thinking the remaining portion of Mass was redundant. What’s worse is that people would then use Church teaching to justify their actions - you would get what we call over here as “smart alecs”.

Therefore, the Church has kept quiet on this so as to allow the cultural influence to be the “de facto” rule. It is generally regarded in the Western world to be rude to leave Mass early. The Church has wisely hidden behind what is a cultural norm to implement what they believe is implicitly correct, even though for all intents and purposes, it is not a rule set in stone .

Also scrupulosity. If the Church says “you have to be there the entire Mass”, what about those with a good reason to come late or leave early? Instead of getting part of the Mass, they wouldn’t bother to come at all because they won’t get to complete it anyway.

 

[YoungTradCath]

Also scrupulosity. If the Church says “you have to be there the entire Mass”, what about those with a good reason to come late or leave early? Instead of getting part of the Mass, they wouldn’t bother to come at all because they won’t get to complete it anyway.

There are exceptions to many rules, and often, these exceptions are written into those rules. For example, exceptions to the mass obligation in the first place.

 

[ConstantineTG]

There are exceptions to many rules, and often, these exceptions are written into those rules. For example, exceptions to the mass obligation in the first place.

Is the faith about rules? I know Jesus said that he is the judge, but do we have to act like lawyers? When we face Him in the final tribulation, will we be arguing like a lawyer pointing out Canon Laws and CCC sections on what we followed?