Evil is a consequence of free will, not some evil deceiver and tempter. The only logical way Satan makes sense is if he is a metaphor for the temptation for ourselves to do evil.God has given us freewill to chose Him or otherwise, without a second choice (Satan) freewill would be pointless.
I consider myself to be spiritual and I believe in God, but I disagree with a lot of things that the church says.hellopeople
*I just think that the Christian Satan is not logical and cannot exist. *
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We humans dont have to have anything to do with ‘Satan’Evil is a consequence of free will, not some evil deceiver and tempter. The only logical way Satan makes sense is if he is a metaphor for the temptation for ourselves to do evil.
Yes, this is pretty much my thinking. We do evil deeds because they benefit us in some way (or at least we think they will). It isn’t Satan tempting us, it is our own free will at work. Worldly pleasures tempt us, not some fallen angel.Satan is a real person who jesus calls the “lawless one” who seeks the ruin of souls. God does gives us free will including satan and the victims of the flood. God allows Satan to tempt us and test our faith in God. The most popular theory today for people is that satan doesn’t exist and that it is just ourselves. There is no point to debate with him becuase he doesn’t believe in Jesus and our words do nothing to convince him. He has made up his mind already and all he is looking to do is stump christians with their own bible.
Satan also has free willYes, this is pretty much my thinking. We do evil deeds because they benefit us in some way (or at least we think they will). It isn’t Satan tempting us, it is our own free will at work. Worldly pleasures tempt us, not some fallen angel.
And I was baptized Catholic and went to Catholic school through high school. I don’t agree with a lot of things the church says so I’m not too sure if I would consider myself a catholic.
How would a fallen angel tempt you? Can he get into your mind? IF he can do that, then God must know it is going on. If God does not stop it, then he is letting it happen. Why would an all powerful and all good God let an angel tempt you? If anything, that is interfering with your own free will.Satan also has free will
Just like i or we can tempt eachother,why cant you believe an Angel(fallen) can also tempt you
read some lives of Saints of the Church,even the most Devout benefit still from reading them
If in case you ward them off as fables.
Have you read how Jesus was ‘tempted’ by the Devil in the NT?How would a fallen angel tempt you? Can he get into your mind? IF he can do that, then God must know it is going on. If God does not stop it, then he is letting it happen. Why would an all powerful and all good God let an angel tempt you? If anything, that is interfering with your own free will.
Logically, Satan as the great tempter does not make any sense. The only way that satan could tempt people like this is if he is as powerful (or more powerful) than God, or if Satan is another entity of God, or God just lets people be tempted by an evil power that he could stop if he wanted to (and he has stopped MANY people that were doing evil before) but does not.
I just can’t imagine a loving God letting everyone be tempted by a supernatural power on a very regular basis. It just doesn’t make any sense at all.
Study into spiritual warfare some time, you’ll see how much of the battle remains within our very thoughts. Sometimes it’s derrived from our direct choice, othertimes, it’s clearly demonic influence, in your case, you are a victim of it to a very large degree…us Catholics make such good targets because getting us to fall yeilds a greater reward then those that are of the world because he already has them in his grasp, there is no challenge for them.How would a fallen angel tempt you? Can he get into your mind? IF he can do that, then God must know it is going on. If God does not stop it, then he is letting it happen. Why would an all powerful and all good God let an angel tempt you? If anything, that is interfering with your own free will.
Logically, Satan as the great tempter does not make any sense. The only way that satan could tempt people like this is if he is as powerful (or more powerful) than God, or if Satan is another entity of God, or God just lets people be tempted by an evil power that he could stop if he wanted to (and he has stopped MANY people that were doing evil before) but does not.
I just can’t imagine a loving God letting everyone be tempted by a supernatural power on a very regular basis. It just doesn’t make any sense at all.
I am not a victim of demonic influence. I do not believe that demons exist.Study into spiritual warfare some time, you’ll see how much of the battle remains within our very thoughts. Sometimes it’s derrived from our direct choice, othertimes, it’s clearly demonic influence, in your case, you are a victim of it to a very large degree…us Catholics make such good targets because getting us to fall yeilds a greater reward then those that are of the world because he already has them in his grasp, there is no challenge for them.
You say you only believe in some of the things the church teaches, it’s like a spoiled child in a high chair not wanting to eat their vegetables, they toss them onto the ground because they displease them, yet we know the child will become sick “just as you are now”, if their diet is lacking them. Too often people take that stance, and when things go wrong for them, they blame God for it.
What about Angels,like good Angels ,what u think of them?I do not believe that demons exist.
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I think that any supernatural force is just a form God takes. Angels could just be a form God takes, but demons could not be.What about Angels,like good Angels ,what u think of them?
If God could create us Humans/men why could Angels not exist,or have been created?I think that any supernatural force is just a form God takes. Angels could just be a form God takes, but demons could not be.
This is best saved for another thread but in a quick summary the church believes that condoms do not offer total protection against aids and other viruses, they merely give a false sense of safety. Chastity (no sex outside of marriage) is the best weapon against these virusesI am not going to just follow the church blindly just because it is “the church.” I can’t do that, nor do I think that it is right. There are certain things that the church preaches that go against common sense morality (example: not supporting condom use in Africa).
It is easy to infer that Satan and God are of equal power from this statement.As for Satan, he and his evils are just as visible as God and His Goods.
They are not in any way equal, but the many evils he brings to this world are very visible. As the saying goes satans greatest trick is convincing people he doesn’t exist. By convincing people he doesn’t exist they see the evils he brings as simple human acts. Thus undermining Satans greatest enemy, the Church by shaking the simple fact that Jesus said Satan was real. Satan can do his evils but ultimately God steps in and ends them.It is easy to infer that Satan and God are of equal power from this statement.
Uhhh, yes? If God wanted he could have just killed hitler before the whole thing happened.Is it a coincidence that it struck at the perfect time to break the Nazi war machine?