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adamhovey1988
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I suppose that true, but I want to hear it from the OP.
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adamhovey1988
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I really think that you should think about this. I don’t know why you want to leave the Church I don’t know if maybe you find better fellowship or what not. I really hope that you pray on this and that you can tell the difference between what God wants and what you want
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Churchman25
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I really think you should think about the decision that you are about to I mean you are with the one true church that Jesus set up for the salvation of many. Then go to a church that’s in heresy or schism. I don’t understand your logic behind this, and I will pray that you make the right decision and not excommunicate yourself.
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t68ware
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The Wesleyans have a very strict one church membership policy. They do not allow someone to hold memberships in two churches, which is why they need documentation from the church you are leaving that you have officially left.
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Oneofthewomen
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There is no such document, and once Catholic, always Catholic.
Again, the question here is why have you decided to leave?
Please talk with your priest.
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Marie5890
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You have a problem then. There is no documentation to be had.
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thistle
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A baptised Catholic remains a Catholic forever, even if they turn their back on the Church and walk away.
There is no such thing as a former or ex Catholic.
There are only two types of Catholic - those in a state of grace and those in a state of mortal sin.
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Kielbasi
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Then I guess their strict rules mean that there are no ex-catholics in their flock- unless they came in and didn’t tell the Wesleyans they were Catholic or bamboozled the Wesleyan minister with a phony resignation credential.
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setarcos
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Its my understanding that salvation is always open to all. You are saved when you walk through the “door”. Whether that door is Catholicism, or some other belief. Leaving aside the fact that obviously Catholics would regard any “door” other than theirs the wrong one.
The question is…having walked through that door is it possible to walk out again? Would walking out that door be equated with renouncing Catholic belief? Salvation may happen with entering the Catholic belief system but the possibility of salvation doesn’t begin there. The possibility exists as an open invitation to everyone. Even those outside the church.
What is the purpose of this indelible mark on your soul if it does not guarantee salvation?
Would you believe that anyone who has had communion, confirmation and the sacraments of baptism cannot be damned? Hundreds of millions of Catholics and simply by carrying the name and doing the rituals you will be saved? I personally find that hard to believe. Every one of those rituals can be performed while ignorant or indifferent of their meaning. Then when understanding catches up to action they may be renounced as false. What then difference is there between that done in ignorance within the Church and that not done yet out of ignorance outside the Church? These things leave no more indelible mark on your soul than belief in them would allow. And if you renounce your belief? What then? Are you renouncing that indelible mark? Like a tattoo scrubbed away leaving no remnant of its former existence other than scarred skin? Of course I say these things in ignorance, not yet with understanding.
May God bless us and save me from myself.
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phil19034
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Yes, but Casilda did officially leave the Latin Church for the Maronite Church. There is a process for that.
But there is not a process for someone who leaves the Catholic Church.
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phil19034
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The only thing you MIGHT be able to do is ask the Parish Secretary or Pastor to take you off the parish registry (or at least off the mailing list) and type a few sentences on Parish letterhead that you have been removed from the parish registry and/or mailing list.
If the pastor is cool with this request, they should be able to accommodate you. But it won’t say you are no longer Catholic.
HOWEVER: I do wish you would reconsider, or at least tell us why you want to leave
God Bless
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Della
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True. The Catholic Church affirms this teaching. See the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 817 and 846-848.
I’m afraid not. No one is saved by walking through any door, Catholic or otherwise.
As to Catholics believing that all other “doors” are the “wrong ones,” see the cited CCC paragraphs cited above.It is always possible to walk out a door that is always open, and the door to the Catholic Church is just that. Everyone’s salvation is dependent on being in the state of saving grace–and that is not limited to the Catholic Church, as the Church herself teaches.
It is the mark St. Paul talked about:
Eph.1[13] In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph.4[30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
The Holy Spirit seals us against the “day of redemption” and gives us the power to obtain and retain God’s saving graces. It’s up to us to take advantage of those graces and grow in holiness. Thus, anyone can lose his salvation by mortally sinning and thus cutting himself off from the love of God, his grace, and the Holy Spirit’s seal upon our souls.
Certainly such a person can be damned. See my last answer above.
You ask questions assuming you know the answers, but you don’t, my friend. You cannot possibly know what millions of Catholics are doing by participating in the sacraments, which are not empty rituals but the means of saving graces.
You may want to research Catholic teachings before telling Catholics that their practices are useless and mean nothing whether or not they are practiced, don’t you?
Indeed. Me too.
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adamhovey1988
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I go to confession because I am called to be humble. I consume the Body and Blood of Christ because he told me I have no life in me otherwise. I don’t feel this is empty ritual. Christ founded a Church for a reason, and I am willing to believe that reason is to be the means of our salvation. I can’t judge the soul of the OP, or anyone else for that matter, but I will remind you, that Church teaching (as it has always been) is “there is no salvation outside the Church”. Does this mean non-Catholics are damned? Not necessarily. Did you ever legitimately believe in Catholicism? If so, I think you are putting your soul in danger.True. The Catholic Church affirms this teaching. See the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 817 and 846-848.
I’m afraid not. No one is saved by walking through any door, Catholic or otherwise.
It is always possible to walk out a door that is always open, and the door to the Catholic Church is just that. Everyone’s salvation is dependent on being in the state of saving grace–and that is not limited to the Catholic Church, as the Church herself teaches.
It is the mark St. Paul talked about:
Eph.1[13] In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph.4[30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
The Holy Spirit seals us against the “day of redemption” and gives us the power to obtain and retain God’s saving graces. It’s up to us to take advantage of those graces and grow in holiness. Thus, anyone can lose his salvation by mortally sinning and thus cutting himself off from the love of God, his grace, and the Holy Spirit’s seal upon our souls.
Certainly such a person can be damned. See my last answer above.
You ask questions assuming you know the answers, but you don’t, my friend. You cannot possibly know what millions of Catholics are doing by participating in the sacraments, which are not empty rituals but the means of saving graces.
You may want to research Catholic teachings before telling Catholics that their practices are useless and mean nothing whether or not they are practiced, don’t you?
Indeed. Me too.
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SAVINGRACE
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She didn’t leave the Catholic Church. She has confused the OP by stating that she did. She merely moved rites.
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adamhovey1988
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Please stop saying rite when you mean sui iuris.
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SAVINGRACE
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Please stop trying to force a foreign language onto me. Everyone knows what I mean. No Catholic I know uses that Latin term unless they are being facetious or part of the Catholic academia. .0001 Catholics in the world speak Latin and you want to enforce it on the rest.
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YADA
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This seems more like membership in two parishes … like they would not accept someone for membership in the Wesleyan Church in "X"Town or at "Z "Address if the person was a member of any other Church - Wesleyan, Baptist, Methodist in "Y"Town or located at "S"Address …
Church membership in non-Catholic circles in usually more local affiliation rather than Universal in faith … just a thought … in that case a letter to your parish terminating your registration at that location with an acknowledgement response back should suffice for this Wesleyan Church … as someone else suggested
As Catholics - we are members of a worldwide universal church - we think about our membership as being bigger than the local parish we worship at …
Like other posters - one wonders why you went through RCIA and made a declaration of unity with the Church and are now wanting to abandon that promise and Christ’s Church … very sad … I am praying for you
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Graceful_Lamb
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This.
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JRS_88
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Ok, try this:Please stop trying to force a foreign language onto me. Everyone knows what I mean. No Catholic I know uses that Latin term unless they are being facetious or part of the Catholic academia. .0001 Catholics in the world speak Latin and you want to enforce it on the rest.
Stop saying rite when the term is Church. It’s the Maronite Church.
It’s becoming ridiculous.
The “eyeroll” - really?
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