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I’d never lectored before and one day was asked by my priest if I would lector? I said I’d never done it before and he said well, “it’ll do in a pinch.” It was a college community weekday Mass on a non-Catholic campus with no guarantee that a lector would show…
Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
 
I’d never lectored before and one day was asked by my priest if I would lector? I said I’d never done it before and he said well, “it’ll do in a pinch.” It was a college community weekday Mass on a non-Catholic campus with no guarantee that a lector would show…
Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
It was fine for the priest to do so.
 
I’d never lectored before and one day was asked by my priest if I would lector? I said I’d never done it before and he said well, “it’ll do in a pinch.” It was a college community weekday Mass on a non-Catholic campus with no guarantee that a lector would show…
Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
The priest deputized you. It’s fine. But if you decide you want to be put on the list of volunteers, you need to go for the training. 🙂
 
The priest deputized you. It’s fine. But if you decide you want to be put on the list of volunteers, you need to go for the training. 🙂
Thanks. I feel much better now. 🙂
Me and my scruples! I’m trying so hard to get better…

Pax,

Sebastiano
 
  1. In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. They should be truly suited to perform this function and should receive careful preparation, so that the faithful by listening to the readings from the sacred texts may develop in their hearts a warm and living love for Sacred Scripture.86
usccb.org/liturgy/current/chapter3.shtml

Naturally in case of necessity exceptions can be taken
  1. Who may proclaim scripture during Mass?
    In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons (readers) may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. The duty of the reader is to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture, with the exception of the Gospel. A reader may also announce the intentions for the Prayer of the Faithful and, in the absence of a psalmist, proclaim the Psalm between the readings.
dioceseoftrenton.org/spiritual/docs/GIRM_readerlector.pdf
 
  1. In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. They should be truly suited to perform this function and should receive careful preparation, so that the faithful by listening to the readings from the sacred texts may develop in their hearts a warm and living love for Sacred Scripture.86
usccb.org/liturgy/current/chapter3.shtml

Naturally in case of necessity exceptions can be taken
  1. Who may proclaim scripture during Mass?
    In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons (readers) may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. The duty of the reader is to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture, with the exception of the Gospel. A reader may also announce the intentions for the Prayer of the Faithful and, in the absence of a psalmist, proclaim the Psalm between the readings.
dioceseoftrenton.org/spiritual/docs/GIRM_readerlector.pdf
So what about, in my case, I was the first there and helped the priest to set up and he chose me to lector, but then if an actual lector showed up, should I have stepped down or the priest said something?

Pax,

Sebastiano
 
So what about, in my case, I was the first there and helped the priest to set up and he chose me to lector, but then if an actual lector showed up, should I have stepped down or the priest said something?

Pax,

Sebastiano
The priest is above you in authority - you just do whatever he tells you to do (unless he commands you to commit a sin, of course … ), and let him worry about the legal stuff.
 
So what about, in my case, I was the first there and helped the priest to set up and he chose me to lector, but then if an actual lector showed up, should I have stepped down or the priest said something?

Pax,

Sebastiano
Very few parishes have instituted lectors. What you call an “actual lector” is still just a layperson commissioned to read at Mass. The only difference between you and one of them is that they are commissioned for a longer term and you were commissioned just for the day. If the priest asked you to yield to one of the scheduled readers, that’s fine, but neither you nor the priest is obligated to make a change.
 
Pax Christi! In our parish, all liturgical ministers (lectors, ushers, extraordinary ministers) are required to take a short training workshop. This is good. Should someone be
asked to fill in, as you were, I have a little advice:
  1. DON’T CHANGE A WORD. This is not actually advice, it’s MANDATORY.
  2. Take. Your. Time. It’s better to go a little too slow than too fast.
  3. Punctuation is there for a reason: use it. Come to a full stop at each period and semicolon “;” and pause at commas and colons “:”.
  4. The priest is there ‘in persona Christi’, so, as our Blessed Mother said, “Do whatever He tells you.”*
*If it’s something our Lord might say

St. Pollio and St. Sabas (patron saints of lectors), O.P.N.

St. John Chrysostom (patron saint of public speakers) O.P.N.
 
I’d never lectored before and one day was asked by my priest if I would lector? I said I’d never done it before and he said well, “it’ll do in a pinch.” It was a college community weekday Mass on a non-Catholic campus with no guarantee that a lector would show…
Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
While there was nothing wrong in you filling in at the request of the priest, this shows how disorganized that Mass was. No one should have to “do in a pinch”. It seems that it was a regular weekday Mass, so there should be a roster of people to read on specific days. Why would there be no guarantee that a reader would show? People need to make commitments. Wouldn’t there be people that regularly come to the Mass? Even if some only come to Mass there on one specific day per week, they could make a commitment to read once per month.

What’s wrong with being the reader “in a pinch”? Well, you are not properly prepared. If you are an experienced reader (as I am), you will be able to do a quick look over of the reading and probably do the reading well. But, an inexperienced reader may not do very well.

All people who will read at Mass should be trained prior to the first time they read. This can take quite a long time if done properly, as it could need to include aspects of elocution - enunciation, pronunciation, breathing, emphasis, pauses, etc., which most people have never been exposed to. Most people also need to be taught how to properly use the microphone, or, where the church / chapel is small and there is no microphone, how to speak so that all will clearly hear what they are saying.

This is why I see the organization of that Mass to be disorganized. Someone (not necessarily the priest) should have recruited and trained a number of regular Mass-goers to be rostered on a regular basis to do the readings and not have priest needing to resort to recruiting someone immediately before Mass.
 
So what about, in my case, I was the first there and helped the priest to set up and he chose me to lector, but then if an actual lector showed up, should I have stepped down or the priest said something?
The priest authorized you, he and only he can revoke that order.

If the case is, that you carried the book in the entrance process and later either you and the scheduled lector started to walk toward the ambo, I would step back from the point of either participant: no reason for controversy. Just like in the traffic, get peaceful agreement instead of collision.
 
While there was nothing wrong in you filling in at the request of the priest, this shows how disorganized that Mass was. No one should have to “do in a pinch”. It seems that it was a regular weekday Mass, so there should be a roster of people to read on specific days. Why would there be no guarantee that a reader would show? People need to make commitments. Wouldn’t there be people that regularly come to the Mass? Even if some only come to Mass there on one specific day per week, they could make a commitment to read once per month.

What’s wrong with being the reader “in a pinch”? Well, you are not properly prepared. If you are an experienced reader (as I am), you will be able to do a quick look over of the reading and probably do the reading well. But, an inexperienced reader may not do very well.

All people who will read at Mass should be trained prior to the first time they read. This can take quite a long time if done properly, as it could need to include aspects of elocution - enunciation, pronunciation, breathing, emphasis, pauses, etc., which most people have never been exposed to. Most people also need to be taught how to properly use the microphone, or, where the church / chapel is small and there is no microphone, how to speak so that all will clearly hear what they are saying.

This is why I see the organization of that Mass to be disorganized. Someone (not necessarily the priest) should have recruited and trained a number of regular Mass-goers to be rostered on a regular basis to do the readings and not have priest needing to resort to recruiting someone immediately before Mass.
I absolutely agree. Perhaps I should have explained my situation better. I go to a non-religious College but it used to be Episcopalian and has a chapel on it. They let us use their chapel and we have Sunday Mass and Wednesday Mass. We thought we were finished for the year, but the Priest suddenly decided to offer Mass on Wednesday (someone wantedto go to Confession, so he decided on the Mass). So the Mass wasn’t scheduled until the Sunday before, in fact the official announcement was probably that there would be no Mass. Aside from that, it was finals week, so who knows where people went? Only 4 parishioners actually showed up for the Mass.

So, yes; I agree, better someone trained than not, but that’s just to give some context…

Pax,

Sebastiano
 
I’d never lectored before and one day was asked by my priest if I would lector? I said I’d never done it before and he said well, “it’ll do in a pinch.” It was a college community weekday Mass on a non-Catholic campus with no guarantee that a lector would show…
Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
Not much about it in the GIRM really. As long as you’re a formed Catholic in good standing.
  1. The lector is instituted to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture, with the exception of the Gospel. He may also announce the intentions for the Prayer of the Faithful and, in the absence of a psalmist, proclaim the Psalm between the readings.
In the Eucharistic Celebration, the lector has his own proper office (cf. below, nos. 194-198), which he must exercise personally.
  1. In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. They should be truly suited to perform this function and should receive careful preparation, so that the faithful by listening to the readings from the sacred texts may develop in their hearts a warm and living love for Sacred Scripture.86
I’m a lector, and we have classes every Thursday night, where we each do the readings, and are critiqued by Father. We also discuss the readings so that we have a deep and meaningful understanding of what we are proclaiming.

Peace,

Steven
 
I’d Did I need training other than what was necessary fro that time or was this for lack of a better word “kosher”?

Pax,

Sebastiano
no you served as a reader not a lector which is a formally instituted office, and you were commissioned to do so by the priest who asked you to serve.
 
Not much about it in the GIRM really. As long as you’re a formed Catholic in good standing.
  1. The lector is instituted to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture, with the exception of the Gospel. He may also announce the intentions for the Prayer of the Faithful and, in the absence of a psalmist, proclaim the Psalm between the readings.
In the Eucharistic Celebration, the lector has his own proper office (cf. below, nos. 194-198), which he must exercise personally.
  1. In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. They should be truly suited to perform this function and should receive careful preparation, so that the faithful by listening to the readings from the sacred texts may develop in their hearts a warm and living love for Sacred Scripture.86
I’m a lector, and we have classes every Thursday night, where we each do the readings, and are critiqued by Father. We also discuss the readings so that we have a deep and meaningful understanding of what we are proclaiming.

Peace,

Steven
Based on your description, I believe that you are a reader. The only instituted lectors, the ones referred to in the GIRM, that I know of are seminarians.

Many parishes use the term “lector” to refer to the commissioned readers. That’s ok, I guess, but causes confusion when looking things up in Church documents such as the GIRM which use more precise terminology.
 
While there was nothing wrong in you filling in at the request of the priest, this shows how disorganized that Mass was. No one should have to “do in a pinch”. It seems that it was a regular weekday Mass, so there should be a roster of people to read on specific days. Why would there be no guarantee that a reader would show? People need to make commitments. Wouldn’t there be people that regularly come to the Mass? Even if some only come to Mass there on one specific day per week, they could make a commitment to read once per month.
I think it is unfair to call this parish or priest “disorganized”. The only parishes I have attended with a schedule for the readers at daily Mass were very large parishes. My own parish is quite small, usually only about a dozen people at daily Mass. Father just chooses someone before Mass to read. He tries to get someone who is one of the regular Sunday readers but that’s not always possible.
 
Based on your description, I believe that you are a reader. The only instituted lectors, the ones referred to in the GIRM, that I know of are seminarians.

Many parishes use the term “lector” to refer to the commissioned readers. That’s ok, I guess, but causes confusion when looking things up in Church documents such as the GIRM which use more precise terminology.
Actually, the English translation of the GIRM does not use the word “reader” at all. And this is appropriate, because Latin does not have two separate words for “lector” and “reader”: the Latin word lector simply means, “one who reads.” Trying to invent such a distinction in the English where it doesn’t exist in the Latin is introducing an unwarranted novelty.
 
Based on your description, I believe that you are a reader. The only instituted lectors, the ones referred to in the GIRM, that I know of are seminarians.

Many parishes use the term “lector” to refer to the commissioned readers. That’s ok, I guess, but causes confusion when looking things up in Church documents such as the GIRM which use more precise terminology.
I’m sure you’re probably right. I’m not a seminarian. I’m a lay person, but we do have training and practice, and if we don’t attend, we’re removed from the schedule. Thank you.

Blessings,

Steve
 
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