Lectors Blessing Fruits and Nuts

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I have heard that while the older Roman Ritual was in force, a man who had received the order of Lector was permitted to bless fruits and nuts.

I know that the current Book of Blessings provides in the case of many blessings a rite which can be performed by lay people and that an acolyte or lector is preferred over other lay people in performing these rites, but my question is more historical.

I do not have access to the full Roman Ritual at the moment. Can anyone provide documentation that a lector could bless fruits and nuts when the older Ritual was in force?
 
Fruits and nuts in the congregation, or the kind that we consume? I could provide some of the former within my own family…😃
 
At our parish, every Holy Saturday afternoon, our parish family gathers with Easter baskets full of food which is blessed by our priests or deacons for us to eat on Easter Sunday. Even our local bishop came. Cardinal George was at a northside parish doing the blessing, when he slipped on Holy Water, fracturing his hip.
In addition, Our family does a table blessing before we eat our food…including fruit and nuts…so anyone can impart that blessing.

I know that part of the Seder meal which our Jewish friends celebrate has a part for the blessing of fruit and nuts.

But specifically a lector doing a blessing, I am not familiar with that ritual at all.
 
I think the Order of Lector is not the same as the commissioned Lector possition we usually think of today :hmmm:
 
Dirk_Skene said:
I think the Order of Lector is not the same as the commissioned Lector possition we usually think of today :hmmm:
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Ministeria Quaedam changed the appellation “order” to “ministry” and opened the ministry of lector and acolyte to lay men. Other than that the basic duties of the lectorate are the same as before, although there are adaptations to the current liturgical books, etc.
 
I found this online: truecatholic.org/ordreader.htm

From the Rite of Ordination of a Reader (the former rite, not the current rite of installation):
The reader’s duty is to read what he preaches (or: to read the Scripture text for the preacher), to sing the lessons, to bless bread and all new fruits. Endeavor, therefore, to read the word of God, that is, the sacred lessons, distinctly and intelligibly, without any mistake or falsification, so that the faithful may understand and be edified, and that the truth of the divine lessons be not through your carelessness lost for the instruction of the hearers.
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This is what I’m thinking of, then.
 
The next time I buy a Cadbury Fruit & Nut bar, I’m taking it straight to my lector. Mmmmm … chooooocolate!
 
Cavaille-Coll said:
The next time I buy a Cadbury Fruit & Nut bar, I’m taking it straight to my lector. Mmmmm … chooooocolate!
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Do you know any lectors? Almost All readers at mass are not Lectors. Lectors are one of the 4 minor orders of the priesthood that is now along with Acolyte an institution for men only but no longer considered minor orders. I can only think of 1 diocese that institutes lectors and acolytes and that is Lincoln, NE and Bp B. doesn’t do it that often. I have a friend who is an actual Lector and he finds it offensive to call lay-readers Lecotors. He said he went throught the rigors of training and institution should count for somthing.
 
THurifer2 said:
Do you know any lectors? Almost All readers at mass are not Lectors. Lectors are one of the 4 minor orders of the priesthood that is now along with Acolyte an institution for men only but no longer considered minor orders. I can only think of 1 diocese that institutes lectors and acolytes and that is Lincoln, NE and Bp B. doesn’t do it that often. I have a friend who is an actual Lector and he finds it offensive to call lay-readers Lecotors. He said he went throught the rigors of training and institution should count for somthing.
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In my seminary, all first year theology students are instituted as lectors.
 
Cavaille-Coll said:
In my seminary, all first year theology students are instituted as lectors.
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WOW you lucky duck! You have lots to choose from!!! you could go through you whole class before people started wondering about your fruit fetish!!

Seriously I apologise for viewing things from the far removed from the seminary place we call the rural parish. I hope you have lots of Classmates!!!👍
 
stbruno said:
At our parish, every Holy Saturday afternoon, our parish family gathers with Easter baskets full of food which is blessed by our priests or deacons for us to eat on Easter Sunday.
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The blessing of Paschal food baskets is a custom from Central and Easter Europe that many Roman Catholic have adopted. You now see all kinds, and I do mean ALL KINDS of foods being brought in any and all kinds of baskets (saw my first pink plastic luandry basket this year), many crammed with the foods still in the plastic bags from the store.:yup:

My poor grandmother is probably spinning considering all the great care she took when preparing the foods for her basket!:eek:

The Blessing of Fresh Fruits, at least in the Eastern Church, takes place on August 6, the Feast of the Transfiguration Of Our Lord. We especially bless grapes and other first fruits of the harvest.

Hope this helps…
 
THurifer2 said:
WOW you lucky duck! You have lots to choose from!!! you could go through you whole class before people started wondering about your fruit fetish!!
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I will try not to take this as an insult. I’m not sure where you are coming from, but this seminary does not admit nuts or fruits. Especially fruits.
 
Cavaille-Coll said:
I will try not to take this as an insult. I’m not sure where you are coming from, but this seminary does not admit nuts or fruits. Especially fruits.
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I do sincerly hope you let in nuts 4 Christ and Mary!

Just I pray the day never comes you have to let in tomatos… 😃
 
cyberwolf001 said:
I do sincerly hope you let in nuts 4 Christ and Mary!

Just I pray the day never comes you have to let in tomatos… 😃
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Hasn’t their been an apostolic letter indicating that the Church has no authority to ordain tomatoes? The teaching is infallible by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
 
dylanschrader said:
Hasn’t their been an apostolic letter indicating that the Church has no authority to ordain tomatoes? The teaching is infallible by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
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I thought it was hot peppers, but tomatoes could be let in given proper instruction.
 
dylanschrader said:
Hasn’t their been an apostolic letter indicating that the Church has no authority to ordain tomatoes? The teaching is infallible by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
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Yeah… I think that wasOrdinatio Lycopertalis.
 
Many dismiss the old D-grade horror movie, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes as poorly-written fiction destined for dissection by Elvira or Mystery Science Theater. There is some truth in the film, however, concerning inherent anger-management problems in the species combined with a stubborn passive-aggressive manner and a tendency to be thin-skinned. All of this is ample evidence of the good psychological and ontological reasons (despite their generosity in antioxidants) as to why tomatoes are not admitted to Holy Orders. The Church also disallows dachshunds and Venus flytraps for similar reasons.
 
Cavaille-Coll said:
Many dismiss the old D-grade horror movie, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes as poorly-written fiction destined for dissection by Elvira or Mystery Science Theater. There is some truth in the film, however, concerning inherent anger-management problems in the species combined with a stubborn passive-aggressive manner and a tendency to be thin-skinned. All of this is ample evidence of the good psychological and ontological reasons (despite their generosity in antioxidants) as to why tomatoes are not admitted to Holy Orders. The Church also disallows dachshunds and Venus flytraps for similar reasons.
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Ontological reasons? Surely Christ did not choose a tomato as one of the apostles because of the circumstances of that part of the world at that time period: tomatoes simply couldn’t be grown in Palestine. It’s an historical accident. The Church needs to get with the times in the modern world.
 
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