Led Zeppelin Satanic?

[WackBob]

and even the Beatles

sorry but that statement negates all seriousness of your arghh-ument. The Beatles were into that hindu peace-love thing with the Indain or hindu stuff. it may not have been very good and they may have been somewhat anti-Christian but they weren’t “Satanic” as you say

 

[TheWhoFreak]

I know I am going to be very unpopular in this forum, but yes, Led Zepplin was Satanic, and even the Beatles, who I always loved, and specifically, John Lennon, were motivated in many ways by Satanic influences. I just read a book on the possibility that John Lennon sold his soul to the devil, and the author makes many, many good arguments proving this. John Lennon was extremely anti-Christian.
Following is a quote about Led Zepplin:

Simply because a musician lives a certain lifestyle doesn’t mean that it will be reflected in their music. Also, Jimmy Page was the only member of the band (at least to my knowledge) that practiced any sort of Dark Magick. He wasn’t even a Satanist, he was an occultist. There’s not much difference, I know, but the main one is that occultism is more like extreme Neo-Paganism, which is a modern version of the Old Testament religions and gods that God didn’t like (Baal, Molech, Bel, etc…). Satanism is the direct worship of Satan, which is a little more hard-core than what Page was into.
As for John Lennon, I haven’t heard any of his music that advocated what you say he practiced in his personal life. It doesn’t really matter to me that he believed what he did. Not wanting to sound callous, but he’s dead now so there isn’t a whole lot I can do.

Very interesting link:

jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/led_zeppelin.htm

I can tell from what I’ve read here that most of you will not accept this because you love the music. But for your own sake, do some research, see what is really behind these bands. Investigate why there is so much tragedy associated with them, why do they all go into very hedonistic life styles, completely opposite of what our Lord preached. Please give it some thought before you pooh-pooh me.

Mary

I hope that you know the author of that site is anti-Catholic to the core. Among other things he calls us:

—The Cult of Mary
—The Cult of Satan
—The Whore of Babylon
—The Anti-Christ
—Idolaters
—Not worthy of being a Christian
—you get the idea…

The problem is that I think he takes everything at face value without stopping to ponder the deeper meaning(s). He even says that Christian Rock music is Satanic! Why? Because he misinterprets a verse in the Bible that says “do not be a friend of the world, for whoever is a friend of the world is an enemy of God” to mean popularity. Thus, all popular Christian bands are of Satan because of their popularity. What rubbish! The fact that he can rationalize things like that make me question his views on other musical topics. I do know all that stuff about Zeppelin, but I also know that it doesn’t play into their music (pun intended) for the most part.

 

[celticsfan1983]

Very interesting link:

jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/led_zeppelin.htm

I can tell from what I’ve read here that most of you will not accept this because you love the music. But for your own sake, do some research, see what is really behind these bands. Investigate why there is so much tragedy associated with them, why do they all go into very hedonistic life styles, completely opposite of what our Lord preached. Please give it some thought before you pooh-pooh me.

Mary

You lost me at that link.

 

[bklynbrat]

Well I agree with the life style problem. Led Zep was know for heavy parties and I did not do a deep analysis of the meaning of their songs but I did know that mythology was an influence for them. I think I will take a closer look. But the point is I listen to the music and I am just fine thank you. Next up " Ramble On"

Plant was into Tolkien. A few of their songs have LOTR references in them too btw.

I’m a huge Zep fan myself.

Thank You!

 

[Joe_5859]

I know I am going to be very unpopular in this forum, but yes, Led Zepplin was Satanic, and even the Beatles, who I always loved, and specifically, John Lennon, were motivated in many ways by Satanic influences. I just read a book on the possibility that John Lennon sold his soul to the devil, and the author makes many, many good arguments proving this. John Lennon was extremely anti-Christian.
Following is a quote about Led Zepplin:

Very interesting link:

jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/led_zeppelin.htm

I can tell from what I’ve read here that most of you will not accept this because you love the music. But for your own sake, do some research, see what is really behind these bands. Investigate why there is so much tragedy associated with them, why do they all go into very hedonistic life styles, completely opposite of what our Lord preached. Please give it some thought before you pooh-pooh me.

Mary

Hi, Mary! Good to see you on another (non-Potter) thread!

Jesus-is-Savior.com is not a reliable source of information on anything. That website scares me far more than Led Zeppelin! Look at the stuff they have to say about the Catholic Church. It is truly appalling.

Here are a few examples:

• They call Benedict XVI “Hitler’s Pope”.
• They say that, according to the Bible, Pope John Paul II went straight to hell when he died.
• They accuse the Church of endorsing witchcraft.
• They say that the Catholic Mary is “a devil”.
• They call the Catholic Church the “whore of Babylon”.
• They assert as fact that many priests and bishops have taken oaths to serve Satan that they have signed in their own blood.
• They perpetuate all the usual misconceptions of the Church (i.e. “Catholics worship Mary”, “Catholics worship the Pope”, etc., etc.).
• and (unfortunately) much, much more.

Now, ordinarily, I’m not one to argue against a person’s position based on the mistakes they have made on other things. I believe that, simply because someone is wrong on one thing doesn’t necessarily mean they are wrong on everything. However, with Jesus-is-Savior.com, I make an exception. Their hateful and woefully inaccurate depiction of the Catholic Church makes it impossible for me to believe that they could get their facts right on anything. I would highly recommend staying away from their website.

 

[TheWhoFreak]

Now, ordinarily, I’m not one to argue against a person’s position based on the mistakes they have made on other things. I believe that, simply because someone is wrong on one thing doesn’t necessarily mean they are wrong on everything. However, with Jesus-is-Savior.com, I make an exception. Their hateful and woefully inaccurate depiction of the Catholic Church makes it impossible for me to believe that they could get their facts right on anything. I would highly recommend staying away from their website.

I have to agree. There is nothing beneficial on that site. They even say that religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity. They advocate what I call a “just-me-and-Jesus” Christianity that spurns church worship (of course it’s unnecessary) and praises private worship in the home with just you, Jesus, and the KJV 1611 A.V. They’re also rabid KJV only-ists as well.
An ironic thing is that I wanted to call out the site author on his hypocrisy and lies, and when I got the the Contact Us page it said, “This Is Not A Hate Site!!!” I had a good chuckle.

 

[CatholicNinja]

Okay, hello everybody, I stumbled across this post and joined up so I could add my own thoughts.

I feel like this is also a bigger issue–what music is appropriate for us as Catholics to listen to–but I think the answer is pretty simple.

Essentially, when we buy music from an artist, we are supporting that artist. Therefore, if the artist has a lifestyle of sin, our support of their music is also a support of that lifestyle.

Generally, my view of music is that if I question some of the lyrics, or if they make me uneasy, I don’t listen to it. The artist is also important to me, and even if there is nothing “bad” about their music, if they lead a life contrary to a follower Christ, then I don’t listen to them or support them.

God always provides. If we give something up for the sake of His love, think of how much He can do with that sacrifice?

Anyway, just my thoughts.

 

[mangy_dog]

A While back my sister started listening to Led Zeppelin and then my Mom talked to this guy that thinks they’re satanic( he has a lot of crazy conspiracy theorys) and she made my Sister stop listening to them cause of this. I understand that their guitarist bought a house from some satanist dude and they did backmasking but other bands did backmasking too like Nirvana and they weren’t satanic. You can listening to a lot of different stuff backwards you can here words but that doesn’t meen it was put there on purpous or even satanic. I’m interested in this band now but don’t want to listen to satanic stuffs so whats your take on it?

The house belonged to Alister Crowley, famous occultist and self-proclaimed anti-christ.

Jimmy Page is a believer and follower of Alister Crowley, Mdme HP Blavatsky etc etc etc ad nauseum.

Best thing to do is stay away and don’t place yourself in danger of demonic molestation.

 

[kinja]

A While back my sister started listening to Led Zeppelin and then my Mom talked to this guy that thinks they’re satanic( he has a lot of crazy conspiracy theorys) and she made my Sister stop listening to them cause of this. I understand that their guitarist bought a house from some satanist dude and they did backmasking but other bands did backmasking too like Nirvana and they weren’t satanic. You can listening to a lot of different stuff backwards you can here words but that doesn’t meen it was put there on purpous or even satanic. I’m interested in this band now but don’t want to listen to satanic stuffs so whats your take on it?

I have personally done alot of research on the roots of contemporary music and to answer your question I would say ultimately that there are signs that Jimmy Page was into the occult. Aleister Crowley wsas not falsely accused of anything. In his own words he hated christianity and everything christ stands for. The Led Zep logo also consists of occult symbols. The song Stairway to Heaven is in fact backmasked. I have played it backwards and heard the message myself. It starts: Here’s to my sweet Satan…

I think that many well meaning Catholics will not know that some the rumours or urband legends actually have some truth in them.

As catholics we need to be prudent about what we take into our minds. I have been reading a bit a bout the effects of music on the mind. The Video Hells Bells 2 is a peek into some of the darkness that is in the music.

Music is a very powerful influential tool.

I am not saying not to listen to a certain kind of music or a certain band, but be cognissant of what messages you feed your mind with while listening to music my friend.

 

[Worthy5]

I have personally done alot of research on the roots of contemporary music and to answer your question I would say ultimately that there are signs that Jimmy Page was into the occult. Aleister Crowley wsas not falsely accused of anything. In his own words he hated christianity and everything christ stands for. The Led Zep logo also consists of occult symbols. The song Stairway to Heaven is in fact backmasked. I have played it backwards and heard the message myself. It starts: Here’s to my sweet Satan…

I think that many well meaning Catholics will not know that some the rumours or urband legends actually have some truth in them.

As catholics we need to be prudent about what we take into our minds. I have been reading a bit a bout the effects of music on the mind. The Video Hells Bells 2 is a peek into some of the darkness that is in the music.

Music is a very powerful influential tool.

I am not saying not to listen to a certain kind of music or a certain band, but be cognissant of what messages you feed your mind with while listening to music my friend.

You people need to lighten up. No one is saying pary like Led Zep did and whatever occult connection Page has is minimal in its effect. Enjoy the music people! Next up " Kashmir"

 

[kinja]

sorry but that statement negates all seriousness of your arghh-ument. The Beatles were into that hindu peace-love thing with the Indain or hindu stuff. it may not have been very good and they may have been somewhat anti-Christian but they weren’t “Satanic” as you say

Don’t be fooled friend. True Satanism is the worship of self. It is the oldest trick of the devil to get us to believe we can be “as gods” as Satan fooled Adam and Eve. The Beatles showed all the signs of modern satanism in their words on and off stage. You don’t have to worship Satan directly to be a satanist. you just have to do his will.

 

[Worthy5]

Okay, hello everybody, I stumbled across this post and joined up so I could add my own thoughts.

I feel like this is also a bigger issue–what music is appropriate for us as Catholics to listen to–but I think the answer is pretty simple.

Essentially, when we buy music from an artist, we are supporting that artist. Therefore, if the artist has a lifestyle of sin, our support of their music is also a support of that lifestyle.

Generally, my view of music is that if I question some of the lyrics, or if they make me uneasy, I don’t listen to it. The artist is also important to me, and even if there is nothing “bad” about their music, if they lead a life contrary to a follower Christ, then I don’t listen to them or support them.

God always provides. If we give something up for the sake of His love, think of how much He can do with that sacrifice?

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Come on, as a Catholic doing the best I can, I am not going to stop listening to Led Zep for the reasons you state.

 

[kinja]

Led Zeppelin is not satanic. Guitarist Jimmy Page was/is a follower of Aleister Crowley’s teachings and did buy his house. Aleister Crowley (whom many rock bands have written songs about including Ozzy Osbourne, Iron Maiden, and David Bowie) was a very different individual. Tabloid press falsely labled him “The Wickedest Man in the World.” I believe his reputation from the tabloids was misunderstood and people were misinformed.

Page is a well known collector of Crowley artifacts. Again, he bought Crowley’s house and supposedly used black magic there. However, I do not believe either Page or Crowley were “Devil worshippers”. Also, Led Zeppelin included other members of the band besides Jimmy Page. There is Robert Plant, John Paul Jones, and the late John Bonham. None of these guys were satan worshippers to my knowledge.

Hi Lee,
I mean no disrespect but I think that you are wrong about Aleister Crowley. He has written quite a few books in which he outlined his spirituality and hatred for Christ quite vividly.

Here are some of his quotes:

**“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”

“Lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture. Fear not that any God shall deny thee for this.”

“I do not wish to argue that the doctrines of Jesus, they and they alone, have degraded the world to its present condition. I take it that Christianity is not only the cause but the symptom of slavery” (Crowley, The World’s Tragedy, p. xxxix).

“That religion they call Christianity; the devil they honor they call God. I accept these definitions, as a poet must do, if he is to be at all intelligible to his age, and it is their God and their religion that I hate and will destroy” (Crowley, The World’s Tragedy, p. xxx). **

He has promoted child sacrifice and beastiality as well as being beneficial to harnessing “spiritual energies”.

I think in all honesty that these topics need to be treated with more seriousness. Music is very influential and if we do not know enough about an artiste or type of music we should not comment. I have done alot of research into music and aleister crowley and I think Led Zep is a bad choice for anyone trying to grow in relationship with Christ Jesus.

 

[CatholicNinja]

Come on, as a Catholic doing the best I can, I am not going to stop listening to Led Zep for the reasons you state.

But you haven’t listed any reasons of your own.

 

[lumenorientale]

I know I am going to be very unpopular in this forum, but yes, Led Zepplin was Satanic, and even the Beatles, who I always loved, and specifically, John Lennon, were motivated in many ways by Satanic influences. I just read a book on the possibility that John Lennon sold his soul to the devil, and the author makes many, many good arguments proving this. John Lennon was extremely anti-Christian.
Following is a quote about Led Zepplin:

Very interesting link:

jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/led_zeppelin.htm

I can tell from what I’ve read here that most of you will not accept this because you love the music. But for your own sake, do some research, see what is really behind these bands. Investigate why there is so much tragedy associated with them, why do they all go into very hedonistic life styles, completely opposite of what our Lord preached. Please give it some thought before you pooh-pooh me.

Mary

Hello! Wait just a cotton-pickin’ minute here! “Ramble On”–along with “Battle of Evermore,” “Bron-y-aur Stomp,” and to a certain degree, “Misty Mountain Hop,”–were all chock full of Lord of the Rings and Middle Earth themes, not Crowley’s weird pagan, perverted, mentally ill religion. “Ramble On” was clearly about the Hobbit–“in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair. But Gollum, the evil one, crept up and slipped away with her…” “Black Dog,” “Nobody’s Fault but Mine,” and some other’s listed were about–as rock songs are normally–some woman. “No Quarter” is a term used by the old Catholics in England when they were being persecuted–meaning “we will give up no quarter of our religion.” Was the song a reference to that? I think so. “Kashmir” was merely about travels in the Middle East–a little harmless fascination with Orientalism here. As for “Stairway to Heaven,” there is much debate about what that song was about, but the “May Queen” was not first mentioned in Crowley’s poetry. The May Queen was central to the May Day celebrations persisted in Europe for centuries–having to do with the arrival of spring.
Yes, Page is kind of a weirdo. A brillant weirdo, a very talented weirdo, but a weirdo nonetheless. But Plant, Bonham, Jones were not so weird.
Anyway, I’ve forgotten much of what I used to know about Led Zeppelin, but I can attest to the fact that the article quoted above is flawed. And I trust very little from that website–much of their articles are flawed. Especially as concerns Catholics. (as you can see, I love Led Zeppelin…I have this urge to go listen to “Ramble On.”)

 

[Worthy5]

But you haven’t listed any reasons of your own.

Am I required? Is this the U.S.S.R.? I listen to it because I like the music and they happen to be unmatched in their talent and influence. Next " Thank You"

 

[CatholicNinja]

Am I required? Is this the U.S.S.R.? I listen to it because I like the music and they happen to be unmatched in their talent and influence. Next " Thank You"

Only if you want to have an actual discussion, as opposed to “no you’re wrong.”

By the way–I never said “don’t listen to Led Zeppelin.” I just said that you should carefully and prayerfully consider music before you listen to it all of the time. You’re against that, I assume?

 

[Worthy5]

Only if you want to have an actual discussion, as opposed to “no you’re wrong.”

By the way–I never said “don’t listen to Led Zeppelin.” I just said that you should carefully and prayerfully consider music before you listen to it all of the time. You’re against that, I assume?

You indicated this, "I feel like this is also a bigger issue–what music is appropriate for us as Catholics to listen to–but I think the answer is pretty simple.

Essentially, when we buy music from an artist, we are supporting that artist. Therefore, if the artist has a lifestyle of sin, our support of their music is also a support of that lifestyle."

So if I listen to Led Zepplin I am supporting that lifestyle according to you.

As a Catholic am I required to listen to you or to the Pope and the Bishops in union with him?-have they said " you should not listen to Led Zep"? Thanks for your concern over me that I " should carefully and prayerfully consider music before you listen to it all of the time". I would agree I listen to Led Zep " all of the time".

What they are is the greatest band in history, you will not see the likes of them again. Next up " Dazed and Confused"

 

[CatholicNinja]

First up, the lifestyle. I do not know the exact nature of every member of Led Zeppelin’s lifestyle. Therefore, how could I imply that about you? All I’m saying is that people should research the lifestyle of the band if they wish to listen (and I do not wish to listen).

Secondly: So, your answer is, in fact, no–you will not prayerfully consider the music. Okay, fine. Your choice. My opinion is that people should discern. And that is all. I have nothing against Led Zeppelin! My post explicitly stated that I was looking at the bigger picture–but it still applies to this band, just like it applies to any band.

I’m sorry that you felt I was arguing against them. I was not.

 

[Worthy5]

First up, the lifestyle. I do not know the exact nature of every member of Led Zeppelin’s lifestyle. Therefore, how could I imply that about you? All I’m saying is that people should research the lifestyle of the band if they wish to listen (and I do not wish to listen).

Secondly: So, your answer is, in fact, no–you will not prayerfully consider the music. Okay, fine. Your choice. My opinion is that people should discern. And that is all. I have nothing against Led Zeppelin! My post explicitly stated that I was looking at the bigger picture–but it still applies to this band, just like it applies to any band.

I’m sorry that you felt I was arguing against them. I was not.

My friend, this is just playful banter. But I see no reason why Catholics need to worry about Led Zepplin. Next up " When the Levee Breaks"