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Mickey
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That is why it is vitally important in the Orthodox Church to have an experienced spiritual father.
Someone says something–possibly rude–and it hurts your ego. It takes two to tango.Beyond that if my pride is insulted it’s my own fault not the fault of the person saying it
If it’s not overtly rude and it is merely my perception that’s flawed that person has no part in the blame and again a society does not consist of one person.Someone says something–possibly rude–and it hurts your ego. It takes two to tango.![]()
“The world” can be your interaction with just one person. Usually something is said to provoke a response.If it’s not overtly rude and it is merely my perception that’s flawed that person has no part in the blame and again a society does not consist of one person.
But if that something shouldn’t make me angry (and it’s usually not) then it’s not a factor in my anger outside of it being a catalyst. So again, in that case society has nothing to do with my sin.“The world” can be your interaction with just one person. Usually something is said to provoke a response.
A catalyst is an outside influence–is it not?But if that something shouldn’t make me angry (and it’s usually not) then it’s not a factor in my anger outside of it being a catalyst.
But it is not responsible for my sin. Let me explain it in better detail. I approve and deny credit requests for a living. I get phone calls day in and day out asking about the decisions I’ve made. I get thoroughly annoyed when someone calls me and contests my decision and flat out angry when they don’t accept the reasoning I’ve given them. It’s not their fault I got angry and it’s certainly not from demonic suggestion. It’s me… as a flawed human being.A catalyst is an outside influence–is it not?
Many of our thoughts come from demonic suggestions, and from these derive our evil outward actions. If with the help of Jesus we instantly quell the thought, we will avoid its corresponding outward action. We will enrich ourselves with the sweetness of divine knowledge and so will find God, Who is everywhere. Holding the mirror of the intellect firmly towards God, we will be illumined constantly as pure glass is by the sun. Then finally the intellect, having reached the limit of its desires, will in Him cease from all other contemplation.
St Hesychius of Jerusalem
But they are a catalyst. I am sure that they are not all lovey dovey after you have declined their credit request. They are questioning your ability to do the job that you were hired to do—and perhaps questioning your competency. This angers you. Ultimately you are responsible for your reaction—no matter what. The martyrs were tortured to death before they were murdered----without getting angry or offended. We often have outside influences working against us—but it is our response which determines whether it will progress.I get thoroughly annoyed when someone calls me and contests my decision and flat out angry when they don’t accept the reasoning I’ve given them.
No.Mickey, do you seriously think I’m going to read all this stuff!?![]()
Yeah,much modern music is horrible. Like Ke$ha,Justin Bieber and such,which they use autotune and such and don’t even write or perform their own music.I haven’t read through the thread. Those guys definitely had occult references in their lyrics.
Some of us musician types were attracted to and focused on the underlying music because of the musicianship…couldn’t sing through a whole Zep song if I wanted to. Unlike many of today’s musicians, musicians of that era had some real musicianship in their background: jazz, old-school blues, choir music, etc.
This is exactly my point… so why then try to say that society is “responsible for inflaming the passions of an ordained priest to commit unspeakable crimes against our youth”? I still disagree with the study but that aside society MAY be the catalyst but it is not responsible for the individual’s reaction… there’s quite a difference.But they are a catalyst. I am sure that they are not all lovey dovey after you have declined their credit request. They are questioning your ability to do the job that you were hired to do—and perhaps questioning your competency. This angers you. Ultimately you are responsible for your reaction—no matter what. The martyrs were tortured to death before they were murdered----without getting angry or offended. We often have outside influences working against us—but it is our response which determines whether it will progress.