Legalized marijuana

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Actually, jaywalking is more dangerous 🙂

But mj is legal is some places locally, like Colorado.
Your statement that jaywalking is more dangerous is based on what?

Marijuana is illegal based on Federal Statute in all states.
 
Your statement that jaywalking is more dangerous is based on what?

Marijuana is illegal based on Federal Statute in all states.
Based on the fact that you can get hit by a car, haha.

And what makes Federal law more important than State law? If the state legalized it, makes it available for purchase, taxes and regulates it, what right does the Federal government have to tell them they cannot? Is the average Catholic required to bow down to federal law over state law? Is the Federal government required to bow down to global law, or to parameters set in place by the UN regarding what we can and cannot do?

Not to mention that the Feds are more than likely not even going to TRY to enforce the law.

Wouldn’t a person in good conscience be able to obey and follow local laws where this is concerned?
 
Based on the fact that you can get hit by a car, haha.

And what makes Federal law more important than State law? If the state legalized it, makes it available for purchase, taxes and regulates it, what right does the Federal government have to tell them they cannot? Is the average Catholic required to bow down to federal law over state law? Is the Federal government required to bow down to global law, or to parameters set in place by the UN regarding what we can and cannot do?

Not to mention that the Feds are more than likely not even going to TRY to enforce the law.

Wouldn’t a person in good conscience be able to obey and follow local laws where this is concerned?
This is a good question that you can probably figure out and I am sure each individual would have to do the same.

Global Law, Biblical Law, UN regulations have little to do with what happens when a Policemen is citing you a ticket or arresting you and you are either facing going to court or sitting in jail awaiting arraignment. You might want to figure out how these weigh in the balance in City, State, Federal Courts.

Common sense would dictate that if you are cited for DUI and you test positive for THC, then you are going to have to offer some explanation for the positive test and recognize that there is the possiblity of Federal Charges if they choose to pursue them.

If you have a conviction for THC at any level then you jeoparadize employment, school loans and who know what else…

but hey smoke away…bow down to no one and give it your best shot to explain your position…
 
This is a good question that you can probably figure out and I am sure each individual would have to do the same.

Global Law, Biblical Law, UN regulations have little to do with what happens when a Policemen is citing you a ticket or arresting you and you are either facing going to court or sitting in jail awaiting arraignment. You might want to figure out how these weigh in the balance in City, State, Federal Courts.

Common sense would dictate that if you are cited for DUI and you test positive for THC, then you are going to have to offer some explanation for the positive test and recognize that there is the possiblity of Federal Charges if they choose to pursue them.

If you have a conviction for THC at any level then you jeoparadize employment, school loans and who know what else…

but hey smoke away…bow down to no one and give it your best shot to explain your position…
Actually, the Colorado police fall under the local jurisdictions, so they would never write someone a ticket for marijuana possession.

My guess is that the Feds are going to take a “wait and see” approach to the whole thing before deciding to get involved. If it goes off without a hitch, they will simply change federal law to comply with state law on this matter.

I think it’s safe to say they won’t be targeting Joe Potsmoker for a dime bag.
 
Interesting piece in the National Catholic Register. The salient part of it (IMHO) is the following:

After considering the effects of marijuana use, moral theologians said a user’s intention is crucial to determining its morality. Cannabis is not intrinsically evil, so an analysis of the morality of smoking pot is found by determining the object of the act of smoking, said Christian Brugger, a moral theologian and seminary professor in Colorado.

Recreational pot smokers use marijuana to induce themselves into a state of euphoria. So the object is to get “high” and to alter their consciousness.

Yet consciousness is needed to make choices, and to impair the human mind is to impair the ability to make choices, he said. Therefore, if a person is high, it’s more difficult for them to make good choices.

Sacred Scripture doesn’t address getting high, but it is filled with warnings about drunkenness.

“Scriptures are pretty harsh about it,” Brugger said.
In an era when we are moving closer and closer to allowing recreational pot throughout the US, it does raise some questions. Right now, pot smoking goes against the teachings of the Church because it is illegal.

One can drink beer, drink wine, sip whiskey, and so on for the taste…and many (if not most) people do so. It’s been a really, really long time since the 70s, but I sure don’t remember anybody smoking a joint for the taste of it.
 
Interesting piece in the National Catholic Register. The salient part of it (IMHO) is the following:

After considering the effects of marijuana use, moral theologians said a user’s intention is crucial to determining its morality. Cannabis is not intrinsically evil, so an analysis of the morality of smoking pot is found by determining the object of the act of smoking, said Christian Brugger, a moral theologian and seminary professor in Colorado.

Recreational pot smokers use marijuana to induce themselves into a state of euphoria. So the object is to get “high” and to alter their consciousness.

Yet consciousness is needed to make choices, and to impair the human mind is to impair the ability to make choices, he said. Therefore, if a person is high, it’s more difficult for them to make good choices.

Sacred Scripture doesn’t address getting high, but it is filled with warnings about drunkenness.

“Scriptures are pretty harsh about it,” Brugger said.
In an era when we are moving closer and closer to allowing recreational pot throughout the US, it does raise some questions. Right now, pot smoking goes against the teachings of the Church because it is illegal.

One can drink beer, drink wine, sip whiskey, and so on for the taste…and many (if not most) people do so. It’s been a really, really long time since the 70s, but I sure don’t remember anybody smoking a joint for the taste of it.
I enjoy the sophisticated taste of a good scotch, and I enjoy the mild buzz. I doubt the sincerity of anyone who claims he or she enjoys alcohol but not the buzz. if I’m in a place where I’m not required to make good choices, then the mild euphoria from alcohol is hardly a reason to call drinking a sin. I don’t see any difference with marijuana, assuming its otherwise legal.
 
The effects of prohibition are very socially destructive, I say legalize it among others.
 
Marijuana is not as harmless as people think. I live in Hawaii where marijuana is, unfortunately, ubiquitously viewed as “natural” and “harmless.” It does cause lung problems and it contains about 3x’s the tar of regular cigarettes and 50% more carcinogens. Also, marijuana alters one’s consciousness and behaviors. Marijuana can also affect reflexes, like driving. I remember watching a program about a year ago where they had a woman drive a car on a course with obstacles, stop signs, etc. They had her drive the same course after drinking (more than the legal limit) and then after smoking marijuana (I forget the amount stated but marijuana’s not regulated so the THC content varies). After consuming the alcohol, she was more reckless and stopped about 20 feet past the stop sign. After using the marijuana, she was super paranoid, braking sporadically and she stopped about 10 feet before the stop sign. You may be thinking, “So, she’s extra careful. No big deal.” Well, it is a problem if someone stops and then drives super slow into oncoming traffic and the oncoming car doesn’t realize it. I see it here quite often where a car merges into another lane super-slow or brakes for no apparent reason (no obstacles in the road, etc) to the point of nearly causing an accident.

Here’s a chart of marijuana’s effects on the body:

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Actually, the Colorado police fall under the local jurisdictions, so they would never write someone a ticket for marijuana possession.

My guess is that the Feds are going to take a “wait and see” approach to the whole thing before deciding to get involved. If it goes off without a hitch, they will simply change federal law to comply with state law on this matter.

I think it’s safe to say they won’t be targeting Joe Potsmoker for a dime bag.
I never mentioned possession…I said DUI…

huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/marijuana-dui-bill-passes_n_2774583.html

There is a proposal to suggest that
Last year Sen. Pat Steadman (D-Denver) spoke out about the issues that make marijuana blood limits problematic like the fact that THC is fat-soluable, so blood limits could remain above the 5 nanogram limit for days after the user last legally smoked pot
a blood level of 5 nanograms or less means that if you are pulled for a DUI then you are not impaired…above that then you are toast…however…
This fact of THC’s different effect on the body than alcohol’s was stunningly shown in 2011 by Westword pot reporter William Breathes. After a night of sleep and not smoking pot for 15 hours, a sober Breathes still tested nearly three times higher than the proposed legal limit.
At present, if you smoke, you drive, you pay…with a DUI…matters not whether you possess it or not…your body tissues possess all you need to get screwed after you get stoned…
 
Marijuana is not as harmless as people think. I live in Hawaii where marijuana is, unfortunately, ubiquitously viewed as “natural” and “harmless.” It does cause lung problems and it contains about 3x’s the tar of regular cigarettes and 50% more carcinogens. Also, marijuana alters one’s consciousness and behaviors. Marijuana can also affect reflexes, like driving. I remember watching a program about a year ago where they had a woman drive a car on a course with obstacles, stop signs, etc. They had her drive the same course after drinking (more than the legal limit) and then after smoking marijuana (I forget the amount stated but marijuana’s not regulated so the THC content varies). After consuming the alcohol, she was more reckless and stopped about 20 feet past the stop sign. After using the marijuana, she was super paranoid, braking sporadically and she stopped about 10 feet before the stop sign. You may be thinking, “So, she’s extra careful. No big deal.” Well, it is a problem if someone stops and then drives super slow into oncoming traffic and the oncoming car doesn’t realize it. I see it here quite often where a car merges into another lane super-slow or brakes for no apparent reason (no obstacles in the road, etc) to the point of nearly causing an accident.
Driving after using any altering substance can be risky. However, how do you know that all of these people you see driving erratically are under the influence of marijuana?

I, personally, am really really sick of my government trying to protect me. All of these laws based on statistical probability alone are eroding our freedom. Life is risky. Be responsible for yourself and your dependents and let others worry about themselves. The people who are going to drive all messed up are going to do it regardless of laws. Look at how many people continue to drive drunk and it is illegal in every state in the nation.
 
Saint Paul said, “All things are permissible but not all things are beneficial.” Marijuana is not spiritually beneficial and its physical benefits are questionable.
 
Saint Paul said, “All things are permissible but not all things are beneficial.” Marijuana is not spiritually beneficial and its physical benefits are questionable.
Health benefits are questionable yes, but growing amounts of data and research is showing that Marijuana grows new brain cells, fights cancer, treats migraines, prevents alzheimer’s, prevents seizures, and more.
 
Health benefits are questionable yes, but growing amounts of data and research is showing that Marijuana grows new brain cells, fights cancer, treats migraines, prevents alzheimer’s, prevents seizures, and more.
Good for you for speaking the truth as you’ve experienced it. My son was addicted to marijuana for 2 years (at least) and has only now overcome it with a lot of therapy, medication and family perseverance. He went from a happy go lucky livewire to a brooding, depressed, detached shell of himself all due to marijuana use. He is now back to himself almost (thank the Lord). You are right. The devil is present in drugs and especially marijuana as it is the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Wow!
 
Health benefits are questionable yes, but growing amounts of data and research is showing that Marijuana grows new brain cells, fights cancer, treats migraines, prevents alzheimer’s, prevents seizures, and more.
Show me the data and research that proves…that Marijuana

grows new brain cells
fights cancer
treats migranes
prevents alzheimers
prevents seizures
and more
 
Wow on this…

ncregister.com/daily-news/to-puff-or-not-to-puff/

To Puff or Not to Puff
NEWS ANALYSIS: Catholic experts weigh in on the morality of legalized marijuana.
In November, Washington voters passed Initiative 502 with a 56% margin to make legal small amounts of marijuana-related products for adults. Similarly, Colorado passed Amendment 64 by 55% to allow the use, cultivation, manufacture and sale of small amounts.
Yet federal law hasn’t changed.
Marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug by the Controlled Substances Act, meaning its possession, use, purchase and sale is illegal because of its high potential for abuse.
Observing the Law
Even when laws are in conflict, Catholics are morally obligated to observe them. St. Thomas Aquinas said being a good citizen means recognizing the government’s authority and following just laws.
as I have stated, Marijuana is illegal based on Federal Statute and here we see a unity in opinion…if there is conflict in State and Federal Law we have a moral obligation to obey the law…
 
I enjoy the sophisticated taste of a good scotch, and I enjoy the mild buzz. I doubt the sincerity of anyone who claims he or she enjoys alcohol but not the buzz. if I’m in a place where I’m not required to make good choices, then the mild euphoria from alcohol is hardly a reason to call drinking a sin. I don’t see any difference with marijuana, assuming its otherwise legal.
There is another thread similar to this where the notion that States recognize Marijuana as legal in some states and the Federal laws will not be prosecuted therefore it is Ok to look only at State law.
 
Health benefits are questionable yes, but growing amounts of data and research is showing that Marijuana grows new brain cells, fights cancer, treats migraines, prevents alzheimer’s, prevents seizures, and more.
Sources please.

Ed
 
There is another thread similar to this where the notion that States recognize Marijuana as legal in some states and the Federal laws will not be prosecuted therefore it is Ok to look only at State law.
the feds seem to take a jekyll-hyde approach to enforcing federal narcotics law regarding marijuana. my impression is that they’ll look the other way unless the medical marijuana dispensaries are rubbing it in their faces.
 
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