Length of daily TLM

[Lover_of_Jesus]

Where were these Masses scheduled in this fashion? I would be real interested in knowing. I served many Masses from the early 50’s through the early 60s and there was really no way this could have been done. Sorry. You have arrived late in this forum. Speed masses of the sort you are attempting to describe have been thouroughly discussed ad nauseum here. We’ve already pretty well demolished the myth of 15, 10, 7 and 5 minute speed Masses on this forum.

But in the interest of fairness, if you would give me the name of the Parish and the diocese, I will make use of my above average investigative skills and find out if this was indeed the case. If I am wrong I will post a retraction of what I have said.

Please note that I never said or indicated that our Sunday Mass ever only lasted 5, 7 ,10 or 15 minutes. ( they certainly were longer than that )
I merely said that we had our Sunday morning Masses scheduled most every hour on the hour .

 

[chotock]

So ok, stealing my thread back can anyone direct me to a place where I can get info on how to be a part of the congregation of a Low Mass, as in when I speak, when I change position etc?

 

[lak611]

So ok, stealing my thread back can anyone direct me to a place where I can get info on how to be a part of the congregation of a Low Mass, as in when I speak, when I change position etc?

You won’t need to speak at all. There is no response from the congregation. You don’t even say “Amen” after receiving Holy Communion. You can purchase a missal, or the church may have some type of little booklet similar to a missalette in the pews. Here’s a link if you want to purchase a missal. catholiccompany.com/product_detail.cfm?aid=283&new=yes&ID=6182&engine=overture!2517&keyword=baronius+press&OVRAW=Baronius%201962%20missal&OVKEY=baronius%20press&OVMTC=advanced

 

[chotock]

I know I need not speak at all, but when do I sit, kneel, stand etc

 

[lak611]

I know I need not speak at all, but when do I sit, kneel, stand etc

Stand for the Gospel, sit for the sermon (if there is one), kneel the rest of the time.

 

[chotock]

Stand for the Gospel, sit for the sermon (if there is one), kneel the rest of the time.

very cool thanks, now why can’t they put that in the missal? lol

 

[Crumpy]

In Phoenix, our daily TLM Low Mass is 45-50 minutes without a sermon. Ordinarily, it does not include a sermon. The priest is aware folks need to get to work.

A Sunday Low Mass is usually about 1 hr. and 20 minutes. A High Mass is a little longer.

As a child in Catholic School, we attended daily Mass, which was in Latin. Truthfully, my memory is not so good as to remember exactly how long the Mass was.

Aside from whether the epistle and gospel were read in English, the time factor was related to the number of people receiving Communion. Particularly if there was only one priest distributing Communion, the Mass would run longer.

These daily Masses were sung Masses. That meant that the priest would intone “Gloria in excelsis Deo” and then actually go and sit down while the choir sang the remainder of the “Glory to God in the highest” hymn. Likewise, the priest would sing “Credo in unum Deum” and also go over and sit down while the choir sang the remainder of that hymn. (I believe in one God). So, that added a couple minutes. Also, the priest would never re-read the epistle and gospel in English during a weekday Mass.

For the Mass in Latin, the choir would be singing the Kyrie eleison (Lord have mercy) during the priest’s procession into the church, which was not from the rear of the church as now, but just from a side door into the sanctuary, a relatively few steps.

The Latin Mass also had “the second gospel” at the very end, even after the Ite, Missa est (go, the Mass is ended), which consisted of the opening of the gospel of St. John.

Some priests would say the Mass more quickly, iin a conspicuously perfunctory manner, or so it seemed, with various hand gestures resembling rapid semaphore signals.

Singing of the Sanctus and Agnus Dei (Holy,Holy, Holy, and the Lamb of God) would overlap the priest saying his prayers simulaneously. (In the early days of the English Mass, these were almost agonizingly long and definitely non-overlapping.)

So, it’s hard to imagine an ordinary daily sung Latin Mass lasting more than 40 minutes. With deliberateness, 35 minutes with smiles everywhere.