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dcointin
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Weekdays we usually do a Vesperal Divine Liturgy, or if it’s Lent, a Presanctified Divine Liturgy. They seem about the same length, 1:15 give or take depending on how long the homily is, what hymns are used, etc.
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ConstantineTG
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I see, thanks.
The parish is on the way to work, but DL is at 8:30am. I usually come to work late and leave late (flexible times) so it won’t be a big deal if I head to work at 9:30am. Sometimes I leave at that time from home, and the UGCC parish is already 1/3 way towards work.
The parish is on the way to work, but DL is at 8:30am. I usually come to work late and leave late (flexible times) so it won’t be a big deal if I head to work at 9:30am. Sometimes I leave at that time from home, and the UGCC parish is already 1/3 way towards work.
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5Loaves
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That’s interesting. I’ve never noticed a different when we have one deacon, two deacons, no deacon, two priests, one priest. But I don’t wear a watch so it’s possible there is a difference. I sure it’s never less been than an hour even with a two deacons and a couple priests
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5Loaves
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Isn’t daily DL unusual? Our ROCOR cathedral in SF has it but I don’t see it other places.
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Aramis
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Not in the Ruthenian Metropolia.
Most of the parishes I’ve been to have daily DL’s on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thurdsay, and Saturday.
Fridays and Mondays only for feasts.
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ConstantineTG
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The cathedral I go to has DL daily, so is one other UGCC parish in the area.
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ConstantineTG
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Okay, so it goes for about 45-50 minutes on weekdays. Hardly any difference from Sunday except Communion is much quicker as there were only 4 of us there.
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Aramis
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And a few words change in a few prayers. Yeah, just a bit shorter.
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ConstantineTG
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Yes, I noticed that too. But not such a huge difference. The first DL in the same parish I attended was about 50-55 minutes, and it was a Sunday.
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Since also we don’t have our usual Cantor for weekday DL, some parts were recited rather than chanted. But one of the Sisters who were there chanted most of the other parts and sung the hymns.
I really wish I could learn how to sing. Maybe I’ll try. I got the book and I’m looking at getting the accompanying CD and practice.
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Aramis
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If you’re looking at the Ruthenian, the audio files are all available for download, too.
Same contents as the CD.
metropolitancantorinstitute.org/RecordedMusic.html
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ConstantineTG
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No, this is Ukrainian. Would it be the same tone/tune?
This is what I have, “The Divine Liturgy: An Anthology of Worship”
http://www.stjosaphateparchy.org/TDLAAiW.jpg
And this is the accompanying 2CD set which I want to have
http://www.ustpaul.ca/Sheptytsky/images/pubs/dlawCD.jpg
Here’s a sample: ustpaul.ca/Sheptytsky/media/33%20-%20Track%2033.ram
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mariyka
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Yup. That’s what we sing on Sunday.
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ConstantineTG
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Awesome. I do love it. But as of yet I’m not that familiar with the tones to tell if there is a difference between what Aramis has posted. I would think that there is no difference, but I honestly do not have the answer.Yup. That’s what we sing on Sunday.
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Aramis
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The Ukrainian is different. Similar sources, 400 years of divergence… and no recent “overhaul”… unlike the Ruthenian.
Not that the new music is terribly different from what we were singing before the new music.
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priestswife
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Andrew- You can be assured of our prayers during this time. If you do feel called to be Byzantine Catholic- try to participate for a long while (maybe a year?)- Live the liturgical year and see if it is a good fit. Also remember that you will be able to go to any Catholic church to fulfill obligations, but sacraments like marriage - a long way off- will be in the jurisdiction of the rite which you have chosen as a convert.
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yaHalyna
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I am UGCC and I am asked this ALL THE TIME.My answer to anyone is: CAN’T YOU STAY WITH ME 1 HOUR? (Gethsame Hour prayers)
Most people go to mass/DL once a week. Whether its 15 minutes (yes, I’ve been to Fr. Speedy’s masses in RC church) or 1 1/2 hrs (standard high mass in UGCC), if you go to praise God, Can’t you spare that amount of time for your Creator?
Watch out, He may take that time away from you.
Most people go to mass/DL once a week. Whether its 15 minutes (yes, I’ve been to Fr. Speedy’s masses in RC church) or 1 1/2 hrs (standard high mass in UGCC), if you go to praise God, Can’t you spare that amount of time for your Creator?
Watch out, He may take that time away from you.
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Aramis
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Lets see… Arrived at 0920. 3rd hour began at 0930, ended at about 0955; liturgy started about 1005. Liturgy ended at 1115, counting the hymn during the closing of the Doors. Left at 1310.
Pretty normal. And yet, despite that, there are people who arrive at 1015 (just prior to the little entrance) and left about 1110 (start of the hymn). At least they were there for the Lessons and the Sermon.
Not counting the Woman who is late because she works until 0900, and has to go get her adult son. She’s got good reason. And the pastor knows why. She does stay for fellowship following.
Church is more than JUST the liturgy. It’s a community, and a family. One should stay for the fellowship time following the liturgy, to be part of that family aspect of the parish life.
Pretty normal. And yet, despite that, there are people who arrive at 1015 (just prior to the little entrance) and left about 1110 (start of the hymn). At least they were there for the Lessons and the Sermon.
Not counting the Woman who is late because she works until 0900, and has to go get her adult son. She’s got good reason. And the pastor knows why. She does stay for fellowship following.
Church is more than JUST the liturgy. It’s a community, and a family. One should stay for the fellowship time following the liturgy, to be part of that family aspect of the parish life.
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ConstantineTG
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I wonder why we do not have Vespers and Matins. I normally arrive 5-10 mins. before the start and the priest is there preparing the bread and wine.
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Aramis
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You can ask your pastor for a blessing to say the reader’s form at home…
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ConstantineTG
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Maybe I’ll get more instructions first how to do it.
It seems pretty standard across the Eparchy, I can’t find a parish that has Vespers and Matins. Is this a Latinization?
It seems pretty standard across the Eparchy, I can’t find a parish that has Vespers and Matins. Is this a Latinization?
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