Lenten Antiphons to the BVM After Compline?

[Aureole]

I recall reading somewhere that the Antiphon to the Blessed Virgin Mary during the Lenten season ought to be the Ave Regina Caelorum after Compline. Now, my problem is that I’ve never heard the Ave Regina Caelorum in Latin before so I would undoubtedly mispronounce every second word.

I enjoyed singing (No matter how poor I was at it) the Salve Regina after Compline in Ordinary time and got used to the Latin at the end of the days prayers, so I would like to keep using Latin hymns if possible. I also would like to keep within the guidelines for the Liturgy of the Hours, so I would have (Read: Like) to use the Ave Regina Caelorum. My question is thus two-fold:

1.) Am I mistaken in thinking that one ought to use the Ave Regina Caelorum after Compline during Lent?
2.) If I’m not mistaken then could someone provide me a link to a website with an audio recording of the Ave Regina Caelorum? (It would help me to pronounce the Latin moderately well so I don’t feel such a fool personally.)

Thank you, God bless.

 

[porthos11]

Aureole:

I recall reading somewhere that the Antiphon to the Blessed Virgin Mary during the Lenten season ought to be the Ave Regina Caelorum after Compline. Now, my problem is that I’ve never heard the Ave Regina Caelorum in Latin before so I would undoubtedly mispronounce every second word.

Thank you, God bless.

The Ave Regina Caelorum was the traditional Marian antiphon for Candlemas to Wednesday in Holy Week. I think today, any of the Marian antiphons can be used any season of the year, with the exception of the Regina Caeli (which is only for Easter). However, like you, I switched from the Salve Regina to Ave Regina Caelorum last Ash Wednesday.

Approximate pronunciation:
AVE, Regina caelorum,
(Ave, re-JEE-na chey-LO-room)

Ave, Domina Angelorum
(Ave DO-mee-na an-je-LO-room)

Salve, radix, salve, porta,
(salve RA-dix, salve POR-ta)

Super omnes speciosa,
(soo-per om-nes spe-chiO-sa)

Vale, o valde decora,
(va-le o val-de de-co-ra)

Et pro nobis Christum exora.
(et pro no-bis KRIS-toom eks-OR-a)

The r’s are more properly slightly trilled. The vowels are typically short and pronounced (e.g. a, not as in Apple, but more as in bAll; o not as in bowl, but more like fOr, and the e should not sound like a long a as in dAy but should be pronounced as a short e as in Echo. Hence, salve= sal-ve, not sal-vay, decora = de-co-ra, not de-cow-ra).

 

[AJV]

porthos11:

The Ave Regina Caelorum was the traditional Marian antiphon for Candlemas to Wednesday in Holy Week. I think today, any of the Marian antiphons can be used any season of the year, with the exception of the Regina Caeli (which is only for Easter). However, like you, I switched from the Salve Regina to Ave Regina Caelorum last Ash Wednesday.

Approximate pronunciation:
AVE, Regina caelorum,
(Ave, re-JEE-na chey-LO-room)

Ave, Domina Angelorum
(Ave DO-mee-na an-je-LO-room)

Salve, radix, salve, porta,
(salve RA-dix, salve POR-ta)

Ex qua mundo lux est orta
Gaude, Virgo gloriósa

Super omnes speciosa,
(soo-per om-nes spe-chiO-sa)

Vale, o valde decora,
(va-le o val-de de-co-ra)

Et pro nobis Christum exora.
(et pro no-bis KRIS-toom eks-OR-a)

The r’s are more properly slightly trilled. The vowels are typically short and pronounced (e.g. a, not as in Apple, but more as in bAll; o not as in bowl, but more like fOr, and the e should not sound like a long a as in dAy but should be pronounced as a short e as in Echo. Hence, salve= sal-ve, not sal-vay, decora = de-co-ra, not de-cow-ra).

 

[AJV]

Aureole:

2.) If I’m not mistaken then could someone provide me a link to a website with an audio recording of the Ave Regina Caelorum? (It would help me to pronounce the Latin moderately well so I don’t feel such a fool personally.)

Thank you, God bless.

You can listen to it here

 

[Aureole]

porthos11:

The Ave Regina Caelorum was the traditional Marian antiphon for Candlemas to Wednesday in Holy Week. I think today, any of the Marian antiphons can be used any season of the year, with the exception of the Regina Caeli (which is only for Easter). However, like you, I switched from the Salve Regina to Ave Regina Caelorum last Ash Wednesday.

I don’t know all the traditional Marian antiphons for the various seasons. I didn’t even know there were supposed to be certain ones for any season until I read through the General Instruction. I did so last night and saw the section I mentioned above, but it was the Regina Caeli during Easter, as you have said. So it does look like what you say is true about all other seasons.

I’m one of those people who enjoys the traditional side of the Church, so would you happen to know of any websites or resources that would provide me with the traditional Marian antiphons for each season? Preferrably with dates, if possible.

And thank you very much for that word for word pronunciation guide, it was (And will be come Easter) rather helpful.

AJV:

You can listen to it here

Thank you for that. I wasn’t expecting chant but that’s even better! I currently don’t chant the Divine Office, I would like to learn so I can though.

 

[porthos11]

Sorry, missed that one.

**Ex qua mundo lux est orta
***ex kwa MOON-do looks est OR-tah

*** Gaude, Virgo gloriósa
***Gau-de VEER-goh glo-ree-O-sah

 

[porthos11]

Aureole:

I don’t know all the traditional Marian antiphons for the various seasons. I didn’t even know there were supposed to be certain ones for any season until I read through the General Instruction. I did so last night and saw the section I mentioned above, but it was the Regina Caeli during Easter, as you have said. So it does look like what you say is true about all other seasons.

I’m one of those people who enjoys the traditional side of the Church, so would you happen to know of any websites or resources that would provide me with the traditional Marian antiphons for each season? Preferrably with dates, if possible.

To the best of my memory:

First Sunday of Advent to Presentation of the Lord (Feb. 2): Alma Redemptoris Mater
After that to Wednesday in Holy Week: Ave Regina Caelorum (I don’t know what was traditional for the Triduum. I may just continue Ave Regina Caelorum).
Then from Easter to Pentecost: Regina Caeli
Then for Ordinary Time: Salve Regina

But again, with the present reforms, the antiphons can be said any time during the year, except, obviously, Regina Caeli in Lent, and most probably outside of Easter.

 

[John_Lilburne]

From the General Introduction to the Liturgy of the Hours:

“92. Finally, one of the antiphons in honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary is said. In the Easter season this is always to be the Regina caeli. In addition to the antiphons given in the The Liturgy of the Hours, others may be approved by the conferences of bishops.”

(From Documents on the Liturgy, Liturgical Press, 1982, ISBN 0-8146-1281-4, page 1109).

 

[Aureole]

Thanks for the pronunciation guide and the antiphons to the BVM porthos11. I really appreciate it.
John Lilburne:

From the General Introduction to the Liturgy of the Hours:

“92. Finally, one of the antiphons in honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary is said. In the Easter season this is always to be the Regina caeli. In addition to the antiphons given in the The Liturgy of the Hours, others may be approved by the conferences of bishops.”

(From Documents on the Liturgy, Liturgical Press, 1982, ISBN 0-8146-1281-4, page 1109).

Thanks, I ended up checking my General Instruction later in the evening and noted this to myself.