Lesbian step daughter, can I still support her?

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I have not yet even begun RCIA classes but have a questioned I need answered before I do. My husbands daughter from another religion is a lesbian. I support her in every way because I love her and want her to be happy. My husband thinks I can not become catholic with this as an obstacle. Is there any way around this?
 
I have not yet even begun RCIA classes but have a questioned I need answered before I do. My husbands daughter from another religion is a lesbian. I support her in every way because I love her and want her to be happy. My husband thinks I can not become catholic with this as an obstacle. Is there any way around this?
obstacle in what way?
I am not catholic, simply curious what you mean by that.
 
You can still become a Catholic, but you’re going to have to “conform your conscience” to Church teachings, which, I suspect, may be difficult for you.

You see, Catholics don’t think that homosexuality – or, as referred to on the forums as “Same Sex Attraction (SSA)” – is evil in and of itself. We believe that to act on these impulses is wrong, just like anyone living outside of the marital state should remain chaste.

I can see where this is a stumbling block for many, but there are many parents, friends, and relatives here who can tell you how to “support” your family member without condoning her lifestyle, if she chooses to act on her SSA.
 
My husband thinks I can not become catholic with this as an obstacle. Is there any way around this?
Is your husband opposed to your conversion?

The situation will not prevent you from becoming Catholic. In fact, even if you were the lesbian you could become a Catholic as long as you abstained from homosexual relations.

Beyond that, Miserissima gives good advice.

catholic.com/library/Homosexuality.asp
 
My husbands daughter from another religion is a lesbian. I support her in every way because I love her and want her to be happy.
I think you need to be more clear on what you mean by “support her in every way.” That is rather vague.
My husband thinks I can not become catholic with this as an obstacle. Is there any way around this?
The Church teaches that homosexual attraction is disordered. There are many sexual impulses that are disordered, that is only one of them. In our time, those who have this impulse have attempted (rather successfully) to convince people it is not disordered and should be accepted-- even embraced-- as a good, or at least as something neutral.

It simply is not.

Having these impulses is not sinful. Acting on them is. A same-sex attracted person is called to chastity. I suggest you check out www.couragerc.net for authentically Catholic ministry to same-sex attracted persons.

Yes, you can love your step-daughter. No, you cannot condone her sinful behavior.

Let me ask you this, if your step-daughter had a different sexual deviance, would you be asking:

My step-daughter is a pedophile, can I still support her?

It is a brainwashing of the culture into believe an evil is a moral good or morally neutral “lifestyle choice” that has brought you to this point. We cannot call evil good.

That does not mean we must reject a child who has SSA. That does not mean we must be unloving, or cease to have a relationship with them. It does not mean we must beat them over the head with a bible. In all things charity must be put first-- remember, “faith, hope, and love remain and the greatest of these is love.” “Love” in this bible passage actually means the virtue of charity.

It does mean that we cannot condone same-sex activities or “relationships.”

I have several friends, co-workers, and family members who are SSA-- or actively homosexual. This has not been any problem with regard to my Catholicity. So, I’m not sure how this would be an obstacle to your conversion.
 
Skyrain,

This is a lot to throw at you right now, being so new to the faith and just considering RCIA.

I want to suggest that you take a step back and consider everything one step at a time. If until this point you have been accepting of your stepdaughter as a human being, as worthy in the eyes of God, as wonderfully made in the eyes of God, and as worthy of your complete love and support, then be assured that none of that conflicts with being Catholic in any way. In fact, the idea that it would is absurd. If the Christian God is the supreme author of love and mercy, then it would be very strange if there were a lack of love and mercy for your stepdaughter.

Your stepdaughter is considered by the Catholic church to have a unique call to a chaste livestyle, but I don’t feel like it is necessary in this phase of your journey into the Catholic Church for you to reflect on the terminology “disordered”, or for you to be asked by fellow Catholics to go immediately and seamlessly from openly supporting your stepdaughter to comparing her to a pedophile.

(And I do not believe it is a fair comparison. It is only an accurate comparison in that both types of sexual attraction are disordered, but clearly, the level of disorder of a pedophile is not equivalent to what your stepdaughter experiences. That is like comparing a person who has a temper problem with a murderer.)

There is a lot to learn and to absorb, and God will reveal that to you and your family over time, and gently. Right now, it is enough for you to know that you can and should pray for your stepdaughter and her relationship with God. In the meantime, continue to love her, and let the Holy Spirit lead you in what you communicate and share with her about being Catholic.
 
I have not yet even begun RCIA classes but have a questioned I need answered before I do. My husbands daughter from another religion is a lesbian. I support her in every way because I love her and want her to be happy. My husband thinks I can not become catholic with this as an obstacle. Is there any way around this?
I assume that when you say “from another religion” that you mean from a previous relationship? If so, you will also want to speak to your priest about your martial status if your husband was previously married. There are many ins and outs to this type of situation, so please speak with your priest.

Also what does “support her in every way” mean? You should certainly still love her and show that love, but if she is in a relationship with another woman, you will need to be careful about what type of support you give her as a couple. All unmarried people all called to be celebate/chaste in their relationships. So even if she was heterosexual, you would not want to support her in living with a boyfriend.

Your can certainly continue to see her and have her visit at your home. If you help support her financially with school fees or something similar, that is fine. You should refrain from doing things like helping to pay rent on a shared apartment or allowing the couple to share a room at your home.

However, as a previous poster said, please begin your RCIA and discuss all this with your priest. You are just started down this road and you may find other issues that you need clarification on also. It is best to have a live person who you can turn to for assistance in working through all these issues rather than depending on the conflicting advice or internet people. 😉
 
Skyrain,

This is a lot to throw at you right now, being so new to the faith and just considering RCIA.

I want to suggest that you take a step back and consider everything one step at a time. If until this point you have been accepting of your stepdaughter as a human being, as worthy in the eyes of God, as wonderfully made in the eyes of God, and as worthy of your complete love and support, then be assured that none of that conflicts with being Catholic in any way. In fact, the idea that it would is absurd. If the Christian God is the supreme author of love and mercy, then it would be very strange if there were a lack of love and mercy for your stepdaughter.

Your stepdaughter is considered by the Catholic church to have a unique call to a chaste livestyle, but I don’t feel like it is necessary in this phase of your journey into the Catholic Church for you to reflect on the terminology “disordered”, or for you to be asked by fellow Catholics to go immediately and seamlessly from openly supporting your stepdaughter to comparing her to a pedophile.

(And I do not believe it is a fair comparison. It is only an accurate comparison in that both types of sexual attraction are disordered, but clearly, the level of disorder of a pedophile is not equivalent to what your stepdaughter experiences. That is like comparing a person who has a temper problem with a murderer.)

There is a lot to learn and to absorb, and God will reveal that to you and your family over time, and gently. Right now, it is enough for you to know that you can and should pray for your stepdaughter and her relationship with God. In the meantime, continue to love her, and let the Holy Spirit lead you in what you communicate and share with her about being Catholic.
VERY GOOD POST!! 👍
 
Becoming a Catholic is your individual journey of faith and lifestyle choice. If your stepdaughter is grown up you may not be able to control her in everyway. I have friends that are homosexuals. Although I disapprove of their behaviour there are nice things about them. One of my friends is actually a homosexual and pagan/white witch. I would try to discourage your daughter from homosexuality but at the same time family does not stop being part of your family because they’ve done something wrong. So it’s perfectly right for a Catholic to still look after their children and we do not disown. I always believe I am only responsible and truly guilty for my own actions. I’ve got a responsibility to guide my children but if they’re adults they are also responsible for their own actions.
 
Well, as baptized catechumen myself, this is my view on the situation:

There are two types of sins: tolerable sins, and intolerable sins. Intolerable sins are the ones we have laws against. These are all of our sins that have direct consequences on other people. For example: theft, murder, assault.

Then there are tolerable sins. These are things which are immoral, often gravely so, but because they only directly affect the people directly involved in committing them, they are tolerated by society. For example: cigarettes, alcoholism*, sexual immorality between consenting adults.
  • Abuse and neglect caused by alcoholism are sins that directly affectly other people, whereas alcoholism only directly affects yourself.
I’m pro-choice on a lot of things - drugs and sex are big ones. I think that anything other than procreative intercourse within the context of monogamous, heterosexual marriage is gravely immoral. I think that self-abuse of ones body with foreign substances is gravely immoral - but I do not think that these sins are worth regulating. I think that because they only directly affect those committing the sin, they should be tolerated.

Of course, what we are to do when loved ones start committing tolerable is a much more complex issue. We care very deeply about the ones we love, and it hurts us to see them destroy themselves, but we must remember first and foremost that they have their own lives. We must be practical. If I were to have a son who smoked cigarettes, it would be pointless for me to continually lecture him about how his body is a temple of the Most High God, and that he commits a grave blasphemy every time he lights up. I must love him, invite him into my home, and wish to be with him, and support him in his life goals. I cannot directly support the smoking, although by supporting him I may indirectly support his sin. However, we are all sinners, and anytime we give anyone any sort of any kind, we may be indirectly supporting someone else’s sin.

As applied to your situation, you love your step-daughter. That is wonderful. Don’t alienate her. Homosexuality is wrong, but the only persons she is hurting is herself and those who willingly partake of her sin with her, as well as those she influences to be more open to the sin, but that is indirect on her part.

Hence, you can be a major part of your step-daughter’s life. However, her allowing you to be a part of it may mean that you have to tolerate the fact that she is a homosexual. She must never be allowed to believe for a second that you are okay with it, but she must also know that you love her and support her otherwise. Stay in her life, but if she never changes, I’m sorry, and that’s between her and God, but you have to love her and accept her.

Jesus told us to be perfect, and to those he healed and forgave he told, “Go and sin no more.” But he loved us while we were yet sinners.
 
See if your diocese has a group called EnCourage for parents, relatives and friends of people with same sex attraction. You will be able to see how other families deal with this issue, and what Catholics in particular are doing. You don’t have to be Catholic to join.

Betsy
 
obstacle in what way?
I am not catholic, simply curious what you mean by that.
I mean obstacle in the fact that I know it is against church teaching but do not think I could ever think that God did not love her.
 
God loves everyone - He sent His only Son to die for our sins. However, that does not mean that He is OK with the sin that us humans commit. In more brief terms - God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.
 
God loves everyone - He sent His only Son to die for our sins. However, that does not mean that He is OK with the sin that us humans commit. In more brief terms - God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.
KJS-Very, very well said. You hit a grand slam!

Support her by loving her unconditonally. You don’t have to like her lifestyle, of course.

Does it mean you cannot be a Catholic? Goodness no. Welcome home my friend!
 
(And I do not believe it is a fair comparison. It is only an accurate comparison in that both types of sexual attraction are disordered, but clearly, the level of disorder of a pedophile is not equivalent to what your stepdaughter experiences. That is like comparing a person who has a temper problem with a murderer.)
I’m sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I just had to say something: wait? Are you trying to say that pedophilia is a sin of a higher degree than acting on homosexuality? But, theologically, isn’t heterosexual pedophilia actually less of a sin than acting on homosexuality because of the proper versus improper use of sexual facilities, albeit still a sin? Of course, homosexual pedophilia is worse than them both…

Pax.
 
I think heterosexual pedophilia would be worse because you’re corrupting and traumatizing a child…Adult homosexuality may be improper use of sexual faculties but at least there’s consent involved…

People can know where you stand but know that you still love them. My sexually active friends know that I choose to remain abstinent until marriage and they know my reasons. They also know that I love them unconditionally. As a convert to Catholicism, with parents who are Catholic but don’t practice, my parents certainly know that my beliefs, stances, and practices are going to be much different than theirs but there’s still a lot of love in our family…

But I choose to live by example more than by words. If people ask, I’ll answer and answer honestly, but lovingly. Yet my way of sharing the Good News is by my life. If people see someone who loves her God, respects her body and heart and those of others, cares about people, admits when she’s wrong and goes to Confession, and willingly gives her time, talent and treasure to the service of others, that shows…and you really don’t need to ram things down others’ throats…
 
I’m sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I just had to say something: wait? Are you trying to say that pedophilia is a sin of a higher degree than acting on homosexuality? But, theologically, isn’t heterosexual pedophilia actually less of a sin than acting on homosexuality because of the proper versus improper use of sexual facilities, albeit still a sin? Of course, homosexual pedophilia is worse than them both…

Pax.
I guess you’d have to ask a professional theologian that question, but if someone decided that, it would extremely bizarre to come to that conclusion.

It seems very obvious to me that what is done between consenting adults cannot be compared to sexual assault of a child.

If someone wants to argue about that, you can argue alone. The subject of child sexual assault is too serious and disturbing for me to abstract into some kind of ridiculous argument.
 
I. I support her in every way because I love her and want her to be happy. ?
I just wanted to focus on this sentence. I urge Skyrain to re-read this part. What is it that we should want for our loved ones? What is happiness? You cannot find true, happiness in seperation form God. You may find pleasure but you will not find happiness in the soul your innermost being. If you truly want the best for someone you cannot support that which can harm them. That being said… it really matters what position you are in in this young woman’s life. There is no reason to hurt and cause family discord if you can’t accomplish your goal. So just like I always do. Pray.
 
I guess you’d have to ask a professional theologian that question, but if someone decided that, it would extremely bizarre to come to that conclusion.

It seems very obvious to me that what is done between consenting adults cannot be compared to sexual assault of a child.

If someone wants to argue about that, you can argue alone. The subject of child sexual assault is too serious and disturbing for me to abstract into some kind of ridiculous argument.
Thank you for your response. I’ll try to do a little more research, but since you don’t want to discuss the point and it is off-topic, I’ll shut my mouth.

Pax.
 
Two suggestions, first Courage. Contact them and find out about enCourage for family members. www.couragerc.net

Second, here is what the Catechism says on the topic:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a6.htm#2357

Chastity and homosexuality
[2357](javascript:openWindow(‘cr/2357.htm’)😉
Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

[2359](javascript:openWindow(‘cr/2359.htm’)😉 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
 
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