Let Our Priests Speak Out

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Jeanne_S said:
JM3;9790067:
Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.

Apparently choosing the lesser of two evils is subjective as well:rolleyes:
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You and the two posts before, read up on what the US Bishops say about it, I follow my conscience, Just as they advise, Peace, Carlan
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JM3 said:
Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
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When we say we “choose the lesser of two evils” sometimes we are using a colloquialism to refer to human beings rather than intrinsic evils. “Evil” has a very real concrete meaning in moral theology and it is never applied to humans or souls. We cannot judge humans and say “this one is good, and this one is evil” except to say that Jesus was all-good and Mary was sinless. Therefore, when choosing one political candidate over another, we are choosing a human being with his intrinsic self-worth and at the same time, all his faults and shortcomings, and we recognize as the Church does, that nobody is perfect and we all suffer from concupiscence and sin just as our parents, Adam and Eve fell from grace.
 
Elizium23 said:
When we say we “choose the lesser of two evils” sometimes we are using a colloquialism to refer to human beings rather than intrinsic evils. “Evil” has a very real concrete meaning in moral theology and it is never applied to humans or souls. We cannot judge humans and say “this one is good, and this one is evil” except to say that Jesus was all-good and Mary was sinless. Therefore, when choosing one political candidate over another, we are choosing a human being with his intrinsic self-worth and at the same time, all his faults and shortcomings, and we recognize as the Church does, that nobody is perfect and we all suffer from concupiscence and sin just as our parents, Adam and Eve fell from grace.
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:thumbsup:Thank you, Peace, Carlan
 
Jeanne_S said:
Carlan;9790478:
In this case,a picture is worth a thousand words,especially since nothing I have said has had an impact on your intent to support Obama.😦
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Well, Thank you.!
I am curious to know what you would have to say about the advice the Bishops give us when we believe both candidates believe in pro-choice .
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Carlan said:
Jeanne S;9790529:
Well, Thank you.!
I am curious to know what you would have to say about the advice the Bishops give us when we believe both candidates believe in pro-choice .
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We have come full circle in this debate.The lesser of two evils Romney is that candidate.
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Jeanne_S said:
Carlan;9790565:
We have come full circle in this debate.The lesser of two evils Romney is that candidate.
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Yes, we certainly do disagree with each other on our political opinions and we both certainly agree we have that right. My prayer is that the candidate who wins the vote will bring the country back much closer to full employment and well being ,and continue to guide us well in foreign affairs.Peace, Carlan
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Jeanne_S said:
We have come full circle in this debate.The lesser of two evils Romney is that candidate.
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Mitt Romney supports a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion in cases where her pregnancy results from rape, incest or where it endangers her life. IMO, justifying abortion in cases of rape or incest is one of the least defensible abortion positions that exist. If I were Catholic, I’d want to know how he arrived at that position. Does he believe that those fetuses aren’t human; don’t have souls; merely going along with public opinion or following the teachings of the LDS church? Until he explains his reasons for why he holds that position, I don’t see how anyone can assume he’s the lesser of two evils. For all we know, his rationale could logically lead him to require abortions in certain situations.
 
cornbread_r2 said:
Mitt Romney supports a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion in cases where her pregnancy results from rape, incest or where it endangers her life. IMO, justifying abortion in cases of rape or incest is one of the least defensible abortion positions that exist. If I were Catholic, I’d want to know how he arrived at that position. Does he believe that those fetuses aren’t human; don’t have souls; merely going along with public opinion or following the teachings of the LDS church? Until he explains his reasons for why he holds that position, I don’t see how anyone can assume he’s the lesser of two evils. For all we know, his rationale could logically lead him to require abortions in certain situations.
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I agree that this premise is a cop out,to placate those who are pro choice.I don’t like it,I know it is a political pandering move:(Having said that,overall Romney in my opinion is a far better choice than Obama on so many levels. Again,the lesser of two evils…
 
Carlan said:
Jeanne S;9790608:
Yes, we certainly do disagree with each other on our political opinions and we both certainly agree we have that right. My prayer is that the candidate who wins the vote will bring the country back much closer to full employment and well being ,and continue to guide us well in foreign affairs.Peace, Carlan
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i have been out of work for 4 months,will killing babies put me and my friends back to work.
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Carlan said:
Yes, we certainly do disagree with each other on our political opinions and we both certainly agree we have that right. My prayer is that the candidate who wins the vote will bring the country back much closer to full employment and well being ,and continue to guide us well in foreign affairs.Peace, Carlan
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i have been out of work for 4 months,will killing babies get me and my friends back to work?
 
april32010 said:
i have been out of work for 4 months,will killing babies get me and my friends back to work?
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I am very sorry for your job loss and I do hope and pray that the slow growing improvement in our job gain over the past two years will soon begin to pick up speed .
Four years after the worst job loss and depressed condition since I was a girl in the 1930’s we have seen lower loss and too slow of a gain but it is realized that for those still suffering, 'as you are, it is not happening nearly fast enough, but we mustn’t give up hope and trust in God for a good sound recovery,it may take as long as another year before we reach complete recovery,albeit we change leaders,and in spite of who our next one will be. Keep the faith April and God bless America!
Peace, Carlan
 
Carlan said:
I am very sorry for your job loss and I do hope and pray that the slow growing improvement in our job gain over the past two years will soon begin to pick up speed .
Four years after the worst job loss and depressed condition since I was a girl in the 1930’s we have seen lower loss and too slow of a gain but it is realized that for those still suffering, 'as you are, it is not happening nearly fast enough, but we mustn’t give up hope and trust in God for a good sound recovery,it may take as long as another year before we reach complete recovery,albeit we change leaders,and in spite of who our next one will be. Keep the faith April and God bless America!
Peace, Carlan
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i take it thats a yes,voting for killing babies stimulates the economy.
 
april32010 said:
i take it thats a yes,voting for killing babies stimulates the economy.
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I am sorry but it does not do good to use such a wedge in the speaking of your situation concerning unemployment. Let us pray for the intercession of Mary and the Saints for the end to abortion in our country and the world. For the conversion of Government Leaders,both Christian and non-Christian leaders and all men and women facing the choice of murdering their precious babe in the womb. Peace, Carlan
 
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