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Would Jeremiah not also have some passages with, like you just mentioned, a more universal message? If so, it would not necessarily show that the chapters 4-7 of Micah were written by a different author, would it?
The more universal passages that you find in the prophets and other writings appear after the time we believe Micah lived. This isn’t a topic that I’ve given a lot of thought to probably because for me I’m not overly concerned with the author as much as I am with the message.
 
(Micah 3:12) In addition to the destruction of the Babylonian conquest, do Jews understand the destruction at the hand of Titus (70 A.D.) to be a fulfillment of (Micah 3:12)?

Perhaps the final fulfillment?
The reason I ask is a conversation with someone (not sure what protestant denomination) who said the Temple must be rebuilt and destroyed.

I can’t imagine Jews believe anything like that.
 
The reason I ask is a conversation with someone (not sure what protestant denomination) who said the Temple must be rebuilt and destroyed.

I can’t imagine Jews believe anything like that.
I’ve never heard a Jew argue that the Temple will be rebuilt and then destroyed. Especially as the rebuilding will occur in the Messianic Age so I don’t see why it would then be destroyed.
 
The more universal passages that you find in the prophets and other writings appear after the time we believe Micah lived. This isn’t a topic that I’ve given a lot of thought to probably because for me I’m not overly concerned with the author as much as I am with the message.
So it seems that to you the more universal passages couldn’t have been written at the time each of the prophets existed. It might well be. But what then do you base this assertion on? I mean, how can anyone tell when those more universal passages started to appear among the Jewish people, through their prophets or otherwise?
 
I’ve never heard a Jew argue that the Temple will be rebuilt and then destroyed. Especially as the rebuilding will occur in the Messianic Age so I don’t see why it would then be destroyed.
Yeah, why would you want to rebuild a temple knowing that it will be destroyed soon after? That would mean you’d build her for nothing, and it would mean all your efforts during the construction would have been in vain!
 
So it seems that to you the more universal passages couldn’t have been written at the time each of the prophets existed. It might well be. But what then do you base this assertion on? I mean, how can anyone tell when those more universal passages started to appear among the Jewish people, through their prophets or otherwise?
The shift to a more universal message, according to bible scholars, occurs after the Babylonian exile. I believe this was around 586 BCE?
 
The shift to a more universal message, according to bible scholars, occurs after the Babylonian exile. I believe this was around 586 BCE?
From my own studies this answer seemed to pop up most logically. You indeed confirm it. Still, any slight chance it could have tentatively come out (maybe unsuccessfully) even before the Babylonian exile?
Anyhow, I have to leave now! Good Sabbath!
 
Thank you. And yes, it is certainly possible Micah his the author of the entire book and that a more universal mesage may have been delivered during his lifetime.
 
What astrological signs are associated with the breastplate stones on the ephod, and the 12 tribes of Israel?
I had researched this question, answered it in this thread somewhere and then promptly forgot about it. I know I posted a link to info on this somewhere.
 
I’m bumping this thread because I found a lot of the answers about Judaism to be more detailed and interesting than the answers I was providing in my thread.
 
When Jesus gave the Our Father to the people, no one seemed to dispute that God is our Father (as opposed as Master).

I found a few references to the belief that God is our Father in the OT (Deut 32: 3-7; 10-12, Isa 63: 15-16) but was it generally known by the Jews in Jesus’ day?

Thanks.
 
I think he fell (on the politics board) in one of the Great Obama Wars of 2008/9.
Great info he provided and I like his style.

Kaninchen, why did you write we (Jews) come here for …

What were the dots for?
 
So, if Valke2 is banned, who would take over and answer questions on Judaism? Or should this thread be closed now?
 
I admit that I’m not sure what Jesus is saying here. Can you explain it to me? a qorban is a sacrifical offering (thus dedicated to God). There are plenty of references to sacrifices in the Talmud. The only use that I am familiar with associated with the word is the passover qorban. That sacrifice carried a severe penalty if it wasn’t done, so the rabbis gave us two opportunities to make it.

Judaism doesn’t assume that honoring your mother and father is a natural instinct. Hence the commandment to do so. I’m going to give a brief discussion on this in the next post so that this doesn’t run too long.
Hello Valke2,
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 I might be wrong about what is going on with qorban? But I remeber one time I had this explained to me in the context of Christ was criticizing wealthy saducee's and Pharisee's who were using qorban as a means of payment.

 This payment was something equivilent to like putting their parents in an old folks home to avoid having to take care of them. An abuse of sacrificial payment or the twisting of things in their favor. And this might sound crazey but it was to the temple priest who were running an oldfolks home on the side maybe to make a few extra bucks.
That they weren’t truly honoring their parents and that sometimes this was against their parents wishes.
Peace and Godbless
 
Hello (name removed by moderator),

Thanks for letting me know.
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I must getting dense or something because I hadn't check the dates. I think it was because I read a few first post and then some last not thinking. Anyway he seemed like a someone honest enough about his beliefs. But such is life I guess at times..
Peace and Godbless
 
Valke2

How can we get him ‘unbanned’?

My understanding is that politics has been banned so he should be able to come back as the topic that got him banned is banned…
 
But I should point out that historically, it was exceedingly rare – and I mean exceedingly rare, for the Jewish court to impose a death penalty on someone, especially for a breach of ritual law (as opposed to punishment for murder, for example). The Talmud teaches that if one person received the death penalty in 7 years, that particular Sanhedrin (Court) was considered exceedingly bloody.
OK, it is not just in the bible but in textbooks that the Jews did this to Jesus, it reads that the court or government didn’t want to kill Jesus, but the Jews wanted to crucify him that same day, and they forced the court/government to do so (and when Jesus died the temples were destroyed) do you think this was a simple coincidence?

No matter what religion you are i will pray for you:crossrc:
God bless!:o
 
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