Letter From Archbishop of Davao Diocese to the SSPX

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As far as agreeing with the SSPX on Vatican II etc., I would not agree with much of what the SSPX says on ecumenical relations with non-Catholics. I applaud the fact that the Catholic Church today is taking steps to improve relations with the non-Catholic communities. On the other hand, I would agree with the SSPX on the imprudence of granting easy marriage annulments. Although marriage annulments were not specifically mentioned in Vatican II, they would be included in the etc. part of what happened after Vatican II. Before Vatican II, people were granted marriage annulments only for extremely serious reasons, such as a spouse failing to reveal that he was already married to someone else, or impotence, and a few other serious reasons. However, after Vatican II, that was all changed in the USA, and people who were married for ten or twenty years and with children were granted annulments on soft and easy grounds which were never accepted before Vatican II. And in many cases, this question would never had come up except that one of the partners had been unfaithful to the marriage. So it is a serious question as to whether or not the Roman Catholic Church is upholding the teaching on the indissolubility of marriage today to the same extent that it did before Vatican II.
I think that marriage annulment issue might just be a red herring because it ignores cause and effect. If the marriage is not valid why shouldn’t it be annulled? We should question ourselves more on how to prevent the multitude of invalid marriages.
 
As far as agreeing with the SSPX on Vatican II etc., I would not agree with much of what the SSPX says on ecumenical relations with non-Catholics. I applaud the fact that the Catholic Church today is taking steps to improve relations with the non-Catholic communities. On the other hand, I would agree with the SSPX on the imprudence of granting easy marriage annulments. Although marriage annulments were not specifically mentioned in Vatican II, they would be included in the etc. part of what happened after Vatican II. Before Vatican II, people were granted marriage annulments only for extremely serious reasons, such as a spouse failing to reveal that he was already married to someone else, or impotence, and a few other serious reasons. However, after Vatican II, that was all changed in the USA, and people who were married for ten or twenty years and with children were granted annulments on soft and easy grounds which were never accepted before Vatican II. And in many cases, this question would never had come up except that one of the partners had been unfaithful to the marriage. So it is a serious question as to whether or not the Roman Catholic Church is upholding the teaching on the indissolubility of marriage today to the same extent that it did before Vatican II.
My two cents on the annulments issue, I don’t believe it is easier today than it was in the past. But there’s 2 things that changed from the past to today
  1. Accessibility. More people have access to Canon Lawyers today who can argue for their case. It wasn’t possible in the past. Also, more people being aware of annulments and the process than in the past.
  2. View of marriage. Before people generally viewed marriage as permanent. No one thought of annulment as an option. Today, it is. And the way people view marriage today, its no surprise most marriages end up being invalid. People don’t seem to understand what marriage is anymore.
 
He wrote a Motu Proprio on Bishop Lefebvre and declares him schismatic, but stops at declaring the SSPX as being in schism.
Rome has spoken on the matter not once not twice but several times stating that the SSPX are not in schism and thus cannot be called schismatic.
vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei_en.html
  1. Faced with the situation that has arisen I deem it my duty to inform all the Catholic faithful of some aspects which this sad event has highlighted.
a) The outcome of the movement promoted by Mons. Lefebvre can and must be, for all the Catholic faithful, a motive for sincere reflection concerning their own fidelity to the Church’s Tradition, authentically interpreted by the ecclesiastical Magisterium, ordinary and extraordinary, especially in the Ecumenical Councils from Nicaea to Vatican II. From this reflection all should draw a renewed and efficacious conviction of the necessity of strengthening still more their fidelity by rejecting erroneous interpretations and arbitrary and unauthorized applications in matters of doctrine, liturgy and discipline.
c) In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of ceasing their support in any way for that movement. Everyone should be aware that formal adherence to the schism is a grave offence against God and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church’s law.(8)
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Schismatic Actions but not Formal Schism
Later in the March 17 interview, Cardinal Castrillón affirmed once again publicly, “The Fraternity of St. Pius X is not a consolidated schism per se, but its history has included some schismatic actions…” The Cardinal continues to explain the illegal consecration of bishops against the express will of the Holy Father and further warns about the danger of schism, and schism leading to heresy and vice versa, according to St. Jerome.
“I know there are in the Fraternity people filled with good will,” Cardinal Castrillón said. “The Superior General, His Excellency, Bishop Bernard Fellay, has in the past years persevered in dialogue.”
In a much overlooked and little discussed interview published February 8, 2007, in the German Die Tagespost, Cardinal Castrillón said he rejected the term and idea of “ecumenism” from within the Church as a reasoning behind the continuing discussions and open communications with the leadership of the SSPX. Specifically, he said the following:
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Please accept that I reject the term "ecumenism ad intra." The bishops, priests and faithful of the Society of St Pius X are not schismatics. It is Archbishop Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. The priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics.
Laymen Who Attend SSPX “Catholic Faithful” Per PCED
The communication to the Archdiocese of Salzburg came from the PCED with a brief history and outline of the facts concerning how the Holy See views the canonical situation of the SSPX:
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The four bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre are excommunicated. Priests ordained within the Fraternity are suspended for lack of a valid incardination.
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Regarding the faithful who sympathize with the SSPX, we must insist that
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    we are dealing with Catholic faithful who — provided they have performed no explicit actions — in no way wish to leave the Roman Catholic Church;
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    attending Masses celebrated by priests of the SSPX is not in itself a delict and does not bring about excommunication;
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    only those of the faithful who see the SSPX as the only true church, and who make this visible externally, incur the penalty of excommunication;
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    it is consequently not at all appropriate to regard as non-Catholic the children baptized in the chapels of the SSPX, and to treat their marriages to another Catholic as mixed marriages;
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    when baptism by a priest of the SSPX is attested in writing and the parents of the newly baptized do not see the SSPX as the only true church, then this attestation suffices for registration of the baptism in the Liber Baptizatorum of the parish of baptism, under the running number 0. On the basis of this registration, a baptismal certificate can be issued.
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The earlier edict concerning marriage to a Catholic who was baptized in an SSPX chapel (see below) is to be applied only if the Catholic thus baptized sees in the SSPX the only true church and who makes this visible externally.
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In order to prevent misunderstandings, the Archiepiscopal Chancery Office will examine each case individually.
From the Archiepiscopal Chancery, on 10 May 2006. Protocol number 579/06.
In answer to a question about the historical situation leading up to the August 2005 meeting, Cardinal Castrillón said, “Unfortunately Monsignor Lefebvre went ahead with the consecration and hence the situation of separation came about, even if it was not a formal schism.” Although the cardinal does continue to affirm the original Ecclesia Dei Adflicta motu proprio by Pope John Paul II that Archbishop Lefebvre ordained four bishops without a papal mandate, he is careful to add the caveat that it was not a “formal schism.”
renewamerica.com/columns/mershon/070410
 
What constitutes a “formal schism”? How is the SSPX situation any different from the Old Catholics or even the Orthodox?
 
So if I wanted to attend an SSPX Mass - does this mean I can go to Communion?

Am I in ANY way in trouble for this?

Alex
 
What constitutes a “formal schism”?
This was my thought, too.

Maybe someone with the knowledge can tell us the difference between ‘formal’ schism and ‘undeclared’ schism.
So if I wanted to attend an SSPX Mass - does this mean I can go to Communion?

Am I in ANY way in trouble for this?

Alex
That would depend on your knowledge and where your heart is.

Myself, I will not go to a SSPX Mass until they have canonical status.
 
I agree with you - not until they have canonical status.

Alex
Right, schism or not, lack of canonical status means they cannot function as priests in the Church. They may be Catholics, but they should not be functioning as Catholic priests.
 
Right, schism or not, lack of canonical status means they cannot function as priests in the Church. They may be Catholics, but they should not be functioning as Catholic priests.
They are given permission to say Mass at the Vatican and I hear in certain other places as well. So effectively it’s not “no ministry” but “limited ministry.”
 
They are given permission to say Mass at the Vatican and I hear in certain other places as well. So effectively it’s not “no ministry” but “limited ministry.”
Its not far off that they are given “one time” faculties out of good will.
 
The Orthodox doesn’t have an invalid Eucharist.
The Old Catholics doesn’t have an invalid Eucharist
You know I was trying to find some conclusive documentation one way or the other that says that a Catholic should not receive communion at an SSPX, but all I found was the usual vague comments. Do you have anything conclusive?
 
As far as agreeing with the SSPX on Vatican II etc., I would not agree with much of what the SSPX says on ecumenical relations with non-Catholics. I applaud the fact that the Catholic Church today is taking steps to improve relations with the non-Catholic communities. On the other hand, I would agree with the SSPX on the imprudence of granting easy marriage annulments. Although marriage annulments were not specifically mentioned in Vatican II, they would be included in the etc. part of what happened after Vatican II. Before Vatican II, people were granted marriage annulments only for extremely serious reasons, such as a spouse failing to reveal that he was already married to someone else, or impotence, and a few other serious reasons. However, after Vatican II, that was all changed in the USA, and people who were married for ten or twenty years and with children were granted annulments on soft and easy grounds which were never accepted before Vatican II. And in many cases, this question would never had come up except that one of the partners had been unfaithful to the marriage. So it is a serious question as to whether or not the Roman Catholic Church is upholding the teaching on the indissolubility of marriage today to the same extent that it did before Vatican II.
The rules for a decree of nullity have not changed. What has changed are that the Canon Lawyers and judges are better educated on what is required to have a valid bond. We did not have as much knowledge about human behavior and human development in the past as we do today.

Another thing that has changed is that people did not know that they could question the validity of their marriage and many people felt very uncomfortable doing so.

Finally, many more people are entering marriage when they should not be. This only increases the number of invalid marriages. In the past, people though it twice before marrying. Today, it’s a sport. Marry today and divorce tomorrow. A person with such a set of values cannot enter into a marriage. The most common problem is people’s attitude toward fertility. So many people enter marriage who are not open to the gift of children. This makes it impossible to have a valid bond. These were not common problems until the second half of the 20th century.

The Church does not dissolve a marriage. She only declares that the bond never existed. There is a system of checks and balances. As soon as the Judge rules that the marriage was invalid the Defender of the Bond has to file an appeal. The marriage is put on trial again. Appeals can continue all the way up to the Signatura.
The Holy Father ruled that the Archbishop Lefebvre was in schism. There a canonical question here that many laymen may not know. The laity does not belong to the SSPX. The Holy Father is directing the laity not to encourage the SSPX.
So if I wanted to attend an SSPX Mass - does this mean I can go to Communion?

Am I in ANY way in trouble for this?

Alex
This was answered by the Vatican. Anyone can attend mass at an SSPX chapel to fulfill their Sunday obligation and because it meets his or her spiritual needs. There is a difference between attending the mass and lending support to the SSPX. If there is an EF mass available within the ordinary jurisdiction, there is no justification to attend mass at the SSPX chapel. In that case, if you do so, then you’re encouraging them to remain in their situation. We cannot do that. We cannot encourage anyone to remain out of communion with the Primacy. The keyword here was stated by Pope Benedict XVI and may lay people never heard this, so they don’t know. Pope Benedict said that the operative word here is “The Primacy”. Catholics have a moral obligation to remain united to the Primacy, not just of Pope Pius X, but united to the current pope as well.
I never saw anything that said they have an invalid Eucharist.
Their Eucharist is valid, but illicit (illegal).
They are given permission to say Mass at the Vatican and I hear in certain other places as well. So effectively it’s not “no ministry” but “limited ministry.”
Canon Law does not prohibit a suspended priest from celebrating mass in private. In private can include people, such as a group of pilgrims. Therefore, the proper authority can grant permission for such a mass.

On the other hand, if you observe, they are never invited to any of the masses at the Vatican such as canonizations, beatifications, or papal masses as the pope travels around the world. You’ll see Eastern Catholics there, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, Muslims and Jews. These people are invited. Those who are priests do not concelebrate for different reasons. I don’t know if the FSSP concelebrates when they attend these masses. In any case, they are invited to be part of the congregation, because they are not in conflict with the Primacy.

For each of these situations there are rules and policies that are not made available to the general public, because the Church feels that these are housekeeping matters. The popes feel that the rest of us do not need to know every rule and exception to the rule. If we were to have to learn these, we would all be Canon Lawyers and theologians. This takes us back to the different roles in the Church. The lawyer does his thing and the educator does his thing etc. The layman does his part, the religious does his and the cleric does his and so forth.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Canon Law does not prohibit a suspended priest from celebrating mass in private. In private can include people, such as a group of pilgrims. Therefore, the proper authority can grant permission for such a mass.
Br JR, didn’t you say on another thread that some of their chapels are under the “in private” category? Or was that someone else?

Thanks.
 
Br JR, didn’t you say on another thread that some of their chapels are under the “in private” category? Or was that someone else?

Thanks.
Not I.

The issue with the chapels is a little tricky. Only consecrated men or consecrated women are allowed to have private chapels. The SSPX are not consecrated men. They are secular priests. For them to have a chapel, they must have the permission of the diocesan bishop. To have one without his permission is illegal.

No one, consecrated religious or diocesan priest, can keep a tabernacle with the Holy Eucharist without the permission of the local bishop. The local bishop is the protector of the Blessed Sacrament.

Then you get into the whole issue of private. For example, the local Benedictine Abbey may have a private chapel and they may allow lay people to attend mass there. But they retain their private status by not running it as a parish. They don’t offer any other sacrament except the mass. They’re not allowed to baptize, witness marriages, bury the dead and they can only hear the confessions of the men who live and work at the abbey. They cannot open their confessional to the general public. If they did that without the bishop’s permission, the absolution is invalid, unless it meets certain canonical conditions.

When you start offering the services that are normal to a parish, you can’t claim to have a private chapel.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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