Leviticus 19:28

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Mental Health patients who are largely people of a spiritual nature are being treated by Atheists instead of properly guided by their respective religious authorities.

Their rights of choice are also being ignored.

My question has to do with the verse: Leviticus 19:28. “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.”

If you know the history of medicine you know they are seeking to prolong life, I think that what they offer much in medication is for sake of the dead. The scripture is saying you shall not harm yourself for sake of those who are no longer with us, thereby is it saying let the course of time take it’s course, let nature take it’s course, let those of deteriorating health deteriorate by course of nature? I make this presumption because the prolonging of life is in defiance of death. Looking at the history of cutting oneself and tattoos, is the history of these actions for the defiance of death?

What the Medical Persons are doing is threatening with time, either take the medication or take the medication for a longer period of time, or making people wait for religious counseling and so accept voluntarily the medications first without religious support. It is under the threat of torture that people are made to voluntarily take the medications.

It is like threatening a Muslim with pork except the Muslim having not learned enough or come to the self realization of whether the pork is bad and refused the authorities of Islam to inform him or her on the matter. Likewise I was refused an assessment to verify whether I actually was ill and treated anyway because it was ‘predicted’ I would get ill again and refused to be turned over to the proper authorities, the Church to guide me during the ordeal.

I told them “I feel more rational” when trying to get out of hospital which I think is a sin, for correct me if I’m wrong when I say much of what Aristotle says is against the Church.

My question on the scripture then is to verify whether I have sinned by willfully doing harm to myself by taking what was given to prolong a natural death/deterioration.
 
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I’m a recovering cutter, and I have been informed that if you are doing it intentionally, with full consent in for knowledge, then it is a sin. That being said, the thing about mental health, is that you’re not always in control, you’re not thinking rationally, so you don’t really have the ability to give consent.
 
Thanks for your reply, that helps. With rationality however is it in Church teachings to be rational? I thought the Church was about reason.
 
Lingual,

Are you currently receiving mental health services?
 
I think what god says is to not make your Self a memorial for a dead person. Tombs trap the body just as cuts and tattoos trap the memory. A person is remembered as being gods creation, not as being the memory of so and so. Also, since it was before Jesus, it has to be seen as preparation. It contains many formulas taught by Jesus in their development phase. What god has joined let no man split asunder, do they mourn while the bridegroom is still with them, do not fear the one who kills the body but the one who can cast into hell, husband and wife shall be like angels in heaven.
 
That’s interesting Spheroid400 however memories are also a part of us, do you mean not to confuse a person’s physical representation with their spirit? Tattoos I think were false religions methods of trapping the spirit rather than the memory.

" “Make any cuttings in your flesh” (v:28): the reference here is to the practice of making deep gashes in the skin while mourning the death of a relative. This was done to provide life blood for the spirit of the dead person rather than to express sorrow. On account of the dead: as indicated above, this describes the purpose of all the actions in verse 27 as well as verse 28.
Péter-Contesse, R., & Ellington. (1992). A handbook on Leviticus. UBS handbooks; Helps for translating (Page 296). New York: United Bible Societies."

Doesn’t the Bible say that you shan’t transmit your blood or take blood from another? Blood represents life doesn’t it? Therefore isn’t it much like Buddhists teachings of removing their body parts if necessary to give to another should they need it? Sacrificing our life to extend the life of another.
 
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Yes. Interesting. As far as ritual cleansing is concerned, Jesus made clear that anything other than repentance for sins is a potential stumbling block. Food, etc. passes out of the body, and what comes from the heart is what offends God when it is not pure, is what I hear him say in the gospel of life.
Memories are a part of us, but that is too contentious for me to respond to.
The purpose of studying Leviticus and the other books of the Bible’s pre Christian cannon is solely to help us understand our own clinging to old things, not as a means of self indulgence or fascination with occult practices, but as you and the others and the book of Leviticus reminds me. God is what it is all about.
To say one final word, I’m not sure how anyone can know what any given person’s reason for cutting is, for tattooing is, etc. I doubt that people who do those things have a single expressed purpose. Even with things like over the counter stuff, they have so many uses like aspirin, what good would be the writings or tradition of someone who said they served one purpose only. People use and abuse and do everything in between for their own reasons.
 
Ahhhh Leviticus, the book of laws people try to knock each other over the head with only to not also follow the rest of the laws.

Leviticus Prohibitions

I particularly like the “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34) one given the rise of xenophobia promoted so recently. All I can say is that, unless you are an ultra orthodox Jew, I see no heresy in not observing these rules; aside from the killing, incestuous, lying, slavery, and being mean ones of course. 🙂

As to the original poster, I don’t know if you are Catholic or not, but I’m fairly sure Catholic teaching is somewhere in realm of doing what is medically reasonable to preserve life; even artificial life support. Indeed I agree that some people have a really hard time knowing when it is time to go and therefore either continue to hurt a sick person or expend massive amounts of medical resources for a lost cause. Especially when those resources could be better used on people who lack even basic heath care.
 
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Psychiatry will play the devil’s advocate in ways that the radar of normal people won’t detect.
There are people in clinics, hospitals, etc., because in today’s world there is little tolerance for
the prophet. Christians feud and Jewish people both are victims and take victims also. The Holy Crusades is a good comparison for the basic process.
I hope you are not disheartened. When you hear the devil’s advocate, you might simulate my response.
First, remember it is not the devil himself. Then “gird yourself” and do what the beast asks except not in your heart of hearts. Learn to act like an actor. Learn an alternate religion and look for the spirit within it. Use that as your framework for negotiating. As far as revealing my own beliefs, I took to heart the words of Jesus.
“Don’t cast your pearls before swine.” In other words, fake pearls look identical and the devil only wants to destroy them anyway. If you do battle with the devil like the highest angels, you need to be a good counterfeit.
 
Thank you all for your replies, thank you Spheroid400 what you have said has been really helpful. Especially your words on “Don’t cast your pearls before swine” which has always been a stumbling block for me, not on my faith for I didn’t mention it but in general so I must be careful and only mention it when necessary, thank you. I feel terribly that I was given the option of taking the medication or to go through with it the harder way voluntarily that is. I feel as if I compromised in my truth and took the easy way out though I’m glad to have the opportunity to gather further information on the matter.

@ stuartbrianhenlis, I apologise for not replying to you earlier, I didn’t like giving away personal information, it was an emergency situation so currently no.

@ PJH_74, I am an unbaptized Catholic and am trying to get back into the Faith so I am somewhat unfamiliar with Catholic teaching.

Again, thank you all, your replies have been informative and gives me something to ponder about, thank you.
 
@ PJH_74, I am an unbaptized Catholic and am trying to get back into the Faith so I am somewhat unfamiliar with Catholic teaching.
Good luck to you. You seem to have a long and winding road ahead and I hope you find solace.
 
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