LGBT DAY OF SILENCE - April 19th

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ActingCatholic said:
To all of you who are responding ‘why is this singling out the LGBT community? everyone gets bullied.’ I would submit that this is not just about bullying, but about the acts of violence that the LGBT community has sustained. I was bullied in school too. I was never beat up and left for dead because of who I was attracted to.
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No. But try being a faithful Christian or Catholic in a public school these days. I have been at one party where I was surrounded by a small mob simply for expressing shock at the loudmouth who aggressively approached me (without invitation) and seemed to feel some strange, compulsive and desperate need to publish to me the fact that he was a gay Polish Jewish-Catholic. My merely expressing shock and confusion (“whoah, wait, what?”) brought a mob around me. Now I don’t respond to intimidation favourably (I was bullied in school too for being very short - until I hit my growth spurt 🙂 ); but I was more shocked afterward that today any indication of opposition to anything remotely homosexual is taken as a license for interrogation or intimidation - for bullying, in other words. There is simply no tolerance for people who oppose homosexuality, and regardless if they have reasons to do so.

More Greeks bearing gifts: these people are in fact promoting hate and intolerance.
 
10gr8kids said:
If it is about raising awareness of bullying why is it called “LGBT Day of Silence”. I doubt they are the only children being bullied.
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They are not. This is part of the propaganda. Since education is my field, I would know. Straight boys and straight girls are bullied. Individuals for reasons having nothing to do with sexuality are bullied. Bullying is becoming more widespread in schools, without regard to the reasons for the bullying. New excuses keep coming up to bully others. It used to be that bullying was mostly directed from insecure boys, “proving” their “manhood” toward other (nonbelligerent) boys. Now, with females in society viewing aggression as a badge of honor and identity, females are both contributing to bullying and are on the receiving end (from boys and from girls). I have observed more non-sexual bullying in the last several years, than sexual.

And in fact, if anything, since sexuality is now “the sacred cow,” bullying has diversified into inventive new areas.
if the day was about bullying, they would not single out “LGBT”. Since they do, -]it seems/-] it’s more of pushing acceptance of their lifestyle than anti-bullying. IMO
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peace2u2 said:
My daughter told me about this yesterday that this would be happening in her high school today…

She said that her and her friends who are pro-life and support the traditional relationship between 1 man and 1 woman will not be silent today…they plan to let their voices be heard in the hallways and in their lunch period. They plan on talking and will not be silenced by the right to speak. In fact, she wondered if these students who are gay would be willing to support her and her freinds in what they believe???

Thank you for providing the link to silentday.org supporting the unborn. I will give this to her and her friends to promote in their school.
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This is a day used to bring forth and acknowledge the problem of bullying especially towards LGBT youth. How on earth does that promote the gay agenda? It starts conversations about any kind of bullying being hateful, at least in my classroom. 🤷
 
ActingCatholic said:
To all of you who are responding ‘why is this singling out the LGBT community? everyone gets bullied.’ I would submit that this is not just about bullying, but about the acts of violence that the LGBT community has sustained. I was bullied in school too. I was never beat up and left for dead because of who I was attracted to.
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You do realize that the merely disagreeing with someones lifestyle these days is construed as bullying? It bothers me a great deal that folks so often redefine words these days to suit their lifestyle or worldview! Do Gay people get bullied? Yes. Do straight people get bullied? Yes. Sometimes by the exact same group who would tell you thay are victims of bullying. We as rational people and Catholics must always be vigilant about this relativism pervasive in our society. God Bless.
 
bitznbitez said:
Who is supposed to be silent ?

I mean if no one would speak of this entire travesty for a day… ok. But if only the traditional view point is silenced then, No way.
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Everyone supporting the event is supposed to be silent.
 
1AugustSon7 said:
This can be taken to an extreme. Intolerance of bullying itself requires a discrimination; and if we fail to do this we will inevitably blame the guiltless. We are effectively (as a society) trying to “out-bully” (intimidate) the bullies, but we realize that this is not itself immoral. Notwithstanding, there is no question in my mind that programmes such as this one are promoting an agenda and trying to demonize any and all opposition to homosexualism, which is gravely immoral. Homosexual behaviour is always wrong. No one is more guilty of unlawful intolerance, discrimation and general hate-mongering than the promoters of the homosexualist cause: it is absolutely wrong to hate someone because they suffer from SSA - this is no revelation to Christians, but the belief is promoted as if it were; but it is also wrong to actively promote hatred and intolerance of Christians, which the promoters and defenders of the homosexualist cause chronically do. They are hateful people.

We should not and never tolerate evil behaviour : we must discriminate always between the good and the evil; promoting hatred under the auspices of tolerance and brotherly love is itself extremely evil and perverted. We never hear these people ask for or speak of tolerance and acceptance of Christians; not surprisingly, most Christians dismiss these programs as rank hypocrisy. Implicit in many of these programmes is that it is right and good to hate Christians or Christianity; also implicit is a belief that Christians need to learn or be taught brotherly love, which is of course a terrible slander. We should demand and require in any and every general promotion of brotherly love or tolerance, etc. that Christians be explicitly included, and that moreover the fact be again explicitly affirmed that Christianity has always believed in good-will and brotherly love toward and between men. If the promoters are unwilling to meet these requirements, then we can expose them for promoting a hateful agenda: we can expose them for promoting hatred, intolerance and ignorance.

The promoters of these causes have a responsibility to promote tolerance of Christians generally: we are after all being murdered in many places around the world for our beliefs, and this is nearly always on account of general ignorance of what Christians believe and why we believe it. These people promote tolerance and claim to try to remove ignorance, while they themselves are so often almost pathologically intolerant of Christians and culpably ignorant of Christianity. Often leaders of the homosexualist movement betray the most rabid and fanatical hatred of Christianity and they imbibe this filthy hatred in their followers through their writing, speeches and books. What we need are days that spend time exposing the vile, radical and filthy hatred that so many of these wolves in sheep’s clothing are constantly insinuating and promoting.

Personally, I just don’t buy it; these are at best Greeks come bearing gifts.
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I do not support the advance of the homosexual agenda. I do support peaceful protests/demonstrations to attempt to stop bullying and discrimination against ANY group of people. Discrimination against people in any form is immoral. Discrimination against actions/policies etc, is a different story.
 
signit said:
I assume because anti-LGBT bullying is more pervasive.

Statistics from the GSA Network:

gsanetwork.org/about-us/faq

And note that they said “actual or preceived sexual orientation.” It’s not just about “these people” and their “agenda,” it’s about a young person who just might not fit the mold, and might even be Catholic, that gets labeled as SSA and therefore bullied. I know I did, and I sure could have used a GSA at the school or somebody saying, “You know, that’s not right . . .”
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Good point! What about the kids that are not homosexual but are bullied because someone thinks they are?
 
CatholicGeek1 said:
I do not support the advance of the homosexual agenda. I do support peaceful protests/demonstrations to attempt to stop bullying and discrimination against ANY group of people. Discrimination against people in any form is immoral. Discrimination against actions/policies etc, is a different story.
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There is no comparative evidence that, regardless of specific cited or studied statistics regarding LGBT bullying, the latter is greater, numerically or percentage-wise, than non-LGBT bullying. Because statistics on the latter have not been kept, and I submit will probably not be kept, because it’s not politically correct to do so. There is no interest group common to the non-LGBT group, and every time someone begins an initiative to call attention to general bullying, the LGBT Political Action Groups take over and redirect it to their own agenda.

Also, as I mentioned in my last post, the widening of bullying to stretch to as many new excuses as possible, is a fairly recent phenomenon. There has always been non-LGBT bullying, but it appears, based on widespread observation (not just mine) to have expanded significantly in the last 6 years especially.
 
Why not just have an anti-bullying day, rather than try to advance a particular agenda as if it alone were the reason for bullying, when it is not?
 
livingwordunity said:
The false assumption that only “gays” get bullied and only “gays” are victims of anything really irritates me. I was bullied a lot when I was a kid, and I’m straight. Bullying happens to anyone who is different in any way. And this campaign against bullying “gays” is like saying that other kinds of bullying are acceptable and that the only kind not acceptable is when it happens to “gays” which is giving them a special protected social status. Our government is currently bullying Christians with the HHS mandate. The “gay” activists only get more and more aggressive in trying to force everyone to accept their sinful behavior as normal.
  • Repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in the military wasn’t enough for them.
  • Obama declaring June “Gay Pride Month” wasn’t enough for them.
  • Giving them “Civil Unions” wasn’t enough for them.
Nothing is ever enough for them.

I think their “day of silence” will turn into a demand for a law enforced year-round silence everywhere for anyone who won’t agree with their sinful behavior. Just as it happened with contraception and divorce, the Catholic Church will be practically the last one standing that doesn’t accept homosexual behavior as normal.
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Wow, just Wow! "Your use of the word “them” is very troubling. I’m a straight person, but I’m surely not a part of the “us” in your post. :confused:
 
kozlosap said:
Wow, just Wow! "Your use of the word “them” is very troubling. I’m a straight person, but I’m surely not a part of the “us” in your post. :confused:
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It seems there must always be an “out group”, a scapegoat to blame societies ills on.
I am old enough to remember when it was Catholics it has been Jewish people, African Americans, Democrats. And now it is the gay’s turn. But there must be someone or some group to focus hate on to make the majority feel better about themselves.

The is an old saying in French that says “the more things change, the more they remain the same”.

The word “scapegoat” basically means that a goat had all the people’s sins placed on it, and was driven into the desert to die or be killed and the populace could feel comfortable with their own sins.
 
andrewstx said:
It seems there must always be an “out group”, a scapegoat to blame societies ills on.
I am old enough to remember when it was Catholics it has been Jewish people, African Americans, Democrats. And now it is the gay’s turn. But there must be someone or some group to focus hate on to make the majority feel better about themselves.

The is an old saying in French that says “the more things change, the more they remain the same”.

The word “scapegoat” basically means that a goat had all the people’s sins placed on it, and was driven into the desert to die or be killed and the populace could feel comfortable with their own sins.
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Just curious.What societal ill have gay people been saddled with? Seems to me the problem is their desire to redefine words to justify disordered/abnormal behavior**(YES! it is abnormal behavior)**. Gay people deserve compassion and respect as the church teaches us.They are not however entitled to their own special set of rules or reality.
 
Thomas_Peter said:
Just curious.What societal ill have gay people been saddled with? Seems to me the problem is their desire to redefine words to justify disordered/abnormal behavior**(YES! it is abnormal behavior)**. Gay people deserve compassion and respect as the church teaches us.They are not however entitled to their own special set of rules or reality.
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I agree that gay people’s sexual acts are disordered/abnormal, And everyone should abide by the same set of rules.

But what has that to do with my post about scapegoats and people or groups that have been singled out for disrespect and in some cases even hatred?

I was relaying history, and there have been groups singled out in that way, including Catholics. Ever hear of the know-nothing party? Are you aware of the burnings of churches and convents?

You response has little or nothing to do with what I was saying. You went off on unrelated tangent and I am non-plussed.
 
CatholicGeek1 said:
From the website:

It is not a day that is trying to push the gay agenda, it is a day that is promoting awareness and trying to stop bullying and name calling.

I don’t care what someone has done, there is no room or place for bullying or discrimination. These things are always immoral.

Remember we are called to love the sinner but hate the sin. I do not think schools should be promoting the gay lifestyle as it is morally wrong, but I have no problem with people trying to raise awareness that it is not ok to bully or make fun of those that are gay, as that is also morally wrong.
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How you conclude this is not an effort to push the LGBT agenda is beyond me. Of course it is. When was the last time we saw a push for a “day of silence” … in PUBLIC SCHOOLS … for murdered babies? For persecuted Christians? For anti-Catholic rhetoric and hate? I don’t favor bullying either, but seriously … let’s be real here.

Sometimes I truly praise God that I do not have children. What a devastatingly sick society in which we live.
 
andrewstx said:
I agree that gay people’s sexual acts are disordered/abnormal, And everyone should abide by the same set of rules.

But what has that to do with my post about scapegoats and people or groups that have been singled out for disrespect and in some cases even hatred?

I was relaying history, and there have been groups singled out in that way, including Catholics. Ever hear of the know-nothing party? Are you aware of the burnings of churches and convents?

You response has little or nothing to do with what I was saying. You went off on unrelated tangent and I am non-plussed.
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Always wrong to disrespect or hate.I just don’t believe gay folks are all that disrespected and hated.It is actually celebrated by a large portion of our country now if you haven’t noticed. What you call hatred and disrespect is actually people feeling their values being attacked at every corner. I apologize if you felt attacked in any way. It was not my intention. Btw? Catholics are being attacked as we speak by our very own government because of our refusal to supply birth control on the churches dime.God Bless.
 
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