LGBT- Transgender

[otjm]

We don’t bother, because they are not listening.

Never argue with a fool; a bystander may not be able to tell who is who.

I share with people who want to engage in dialogue, not argumentation; the rest of them already have their minds made up and don’t want to be confused with the facts. It saves a lot of breath on my part - and having asthma, that sometimes is an issue.

 

[PJH_74]

…except that I’ve seen it. And I’ve seen people de-transition (who had sworn on like 10 Bibles they were TOTALLY born in the wrong body, etc).

No. If a kid all of a sudden in their tweens and teens start questioning their gender, then something has gone very wrong in their life or in their thinking. Troubled, unhappy teens often make up a narrative for themselves and can be very insistent on this narrative.

What I don’t get is your apparent argument is that this is either a preschooler or teen trauma thing, this is a very limited take on those who experience such feelings. As for detransitioned people, it would be ridiculous to think that there aren’t people for whom a transgender identity was either a crutch for something else or for whom transition was not an appropriate answer. It’s entirely normal that a group that feels it’s under fire by public opinion would distance itself from the rnegative as much as its critics would jump on the examples. All you need to do is look some of the defensive threads and comments made on this forum regarding the sex scandals.w

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Because if you know the history of the phenomenon of transsexual/transgender, the classic clinical picture is a little boy (nearly always male) who from around potty training or around the time they could talk, expressed a conviction they were actually a girl. And rather than outgrow it, it persisted into adulthood.
This is an extremely rare phenomenon. You could go through you whole life and never meet anybody like this.

What we have been seeing in recent years, and on the heels of other sudden mental health spikes (anorexia nervosa, cutting) and against the background of an enormous increase in depression, anxiety and addiction, is these tween and teen girls (mostly girls although boys, also) who are insisting they are the opposite sex.

Our health care system also has an unfortunate tendency to jump on some very harmful treatments. I remember when lobotomy was considered compassionate care (“but look! They’re not suffering anymore! I guess you just want people to suffer ”). I also remember the repressed memory craze, with its mantra of “always affirm and never question”. And the families that got destroyed in its wake.

So yeah, I need way more proof for the extraordinary claims of the trans activists than what I’ve seem so far.

 

[Saint_Prince_Caspian]

A number of LGBT people are trying to use Galatians 3:28 to prove that transgenderism and homosexuality is good. How do we set them straight?

I think you should test their theory first. Because, it’s not exclusive to homosexuals, or anyone fitting the description LGBTQ.

For one, that reading would also mean pedophiles, murders, thieves, abortionists, and alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, etc.

Thus, why not test their theory out.

So, first, get the gravity and sense of what they mean. Is God only accepting people of LGBTQ from the perspective of Galatians? Or is this inclusive to other people of other orientations. I would place it into a general question. Let those who believe it, test drive the argument themselves.

Second, why would God only love LGBTQ but not the rapist, or the abuser?

I imagine then they will articulate the word: “love.”

Then ask them what their definition of love is.

Then I would circle back then to the one who for the most part is accounted as the writer of those letters: Saint Paul.

Who nonetheless was a murderer of Christians.

Then, if LGBTQ means that which is love. Because God loves. Then, are they saying God loved Saint Paul because it was love that he murdered Christians by stoning them?

Or is it because Saint Paul did not act in love when murdering Christians. And if so, then that means even God can love the rapist, the alcoholic, the drug addict, and every criminal on the surface of the planet.

Then this question hits the ball from the homeplate (to use the baseball analogy.) Because, if God loves everyone. He obviously is not going to accept their actions: i.e murdering and so forth. But seeks their Penance.

Which Saint Paul repented from the murdering Christians, and wrote many letters on the account of Love (Hence, Mercy.)

Thus, if LGBTQ is not a sin. Then there is not need for mercy. If there is no need for mercy being LGBTQ, then the letter of Saint Paul are worthless. Since you are talking about repentant murderer, not someone who belonged to LGBTQ.