Liberal or Conservative?

[jmjconder]

I have never understood this. I have always believed the truth is the truth…therefore neither Liberal or conservative.

 

[tskrobacz]

True, that which is true is true always, everywhere and for all times. It is the Ego that divides the world into Liberal, Conservative…Catholic, Non-Catholic, etc…none of those distinctions actually exist. Only the non-dualistic mind can transcend these illusory divisions that cultures create.

 

[Della]

A better definition would be orthodox and heterodox. One can be a social liberal and still be perfectly orthodox in belief and practice of the faith or be a social conservative and orthodox.

I don’t think of myself as conservative or liberal, but rather orthodox in beliefs and sensible in matters of political policy. I cannot support a “nanny state” for instance, but I also cannot support hating people merely for wanting to immigrate to a freer, better society. My Catholic faith must inform the whole of my life, not just the religious aspects of it.

 

[John_Martin]

True, that which is true is true always, everywhere and for all times. It is the Ego that divides the world into Liberal, Conservative…Catholic, Non-Catholic, etc…none of those distinctions actually exist. Only the non-dualistic mind can transcend these illusory divisions that cultures create.

Actually, a Catholic is one who is baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and thus a member of the Church, as Citizen of the Kingdom God established, with Jesus as King. A non-Catholic has not received (as yet, but hopefully will) such citizenship. It was Jesus who accepted the position of King at his baptism and began his Church, Kingdom, and set it upon Peter (Rock) to govern this royal household of his People for Him. It is not in the ego, which in itself is a fairly recent theory of psychological construct. We are a real People, sojourning in the countries where we live among “conservatives”, “liberals”, and “cultures”. A “non-dualistic mind” is a very recent and new age theory drawing somewhat on ancient Asian philosophies, that in practice cannot erase the physical reality of “being one with” the People, to pretend transcendence and develop an illusion that being a physical Catholic is an illusion.

John Martin

 

[livingwordunity]

If by “liberal” one means believing in relativism, so-called “abortion rights” and same-sex “marriage”, female priests, etc. then the Catholic Church is absolutely not liberal. If by “conservative” one means holding to traditions and believing in absolute moral and spiritual truth then the Catholic Church is absolutely conservative.

 

[tskrobacz]

Actually, a Catholic is one who is baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and thus a member of the Church, as Citizen of the Kingdom God established, with Jesus as King. A non-Catholic has not received (as yet, but hopefully will) such citizenship. It was Jesus who accepted the position of King at his baptism and began his Church, Kingdom, and set it upon Peter (Rock) to govern this royal household of his People for Him. It is not in the ego, which in itself is a fairly recent theory of psychological construct. We are a real People, sojourning in the countries where we live among “conservatives”, “liberals”, and “cultures”. A “non-dualistic mind” is a very recent and new age theory drawing somewhat on ancient Asian philosophies, that in practice cannot erase the physical reality of “being one with” the People, to pretend transcendence and develop an illusion that being a physical Catholic is an illusion.

John Martin

Unless God is everywhere, God is nowhere at all.

 

[TK421]

I have never understood this. I have always believed the truth is the truth…therefore neither Liberal or conservative.

It depends what culture you’re living in. By holding to the truth in the West, you’re going to be considered more-or-less conservative in the culture. If you’re in China, a good portion of your views would be considered liberal. Since Catholics care about obedience to the Magisterium front and center, the political label attached to them is going to come as a passive aftereffect.