Liberalism in the Catholic Church

[Shiphrae]

originally posted by anamchara
Fr. Corapi is not for everyone. I just recently found out that he was run out of our diocese years back by 50 or so priests,nuns, religious. Our Bishop hired him to be the faith formation director. He didn’t work out here.

So was St. John Vianney. He was refused admission to the seminary several times. However, it did not stop him from doing God’s work.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

 

[fix]

Fr. Corapi is not for everyone. I just recently found out that he was run out of our diocese years back by 50 or so priests,nuns, religious.

A badge of honor.

 

[alanjeddy]

My friend, what has you so scared? God is good, pray and stick with the Church, you will be fine

Are you a convert from the evangelical side of the Protestant Church?

Christ is more powerful than the evil in the world my fellow Christian

I am a craddle Cathoilc. God is all merciful but he doesn’t send us to hell… We send ourselves there. 80% of Catholics don’t go to mass on Sunday and you know something they don’t even consider that a sin. 60% of Catholics believe that abortion is not a sin. An equal percentage don’t believe in the real presence in the Eucharist. The devil has convinced us that these are not sins, you haven’t done anything wrong, you don’t have to go to confession.
So waht happens? We buy into these lies and have you noticed how short the lines to confession are?

You say there is nothing to worry about? Salvation must be earned. We surrender ourselves in service to others. It is not just about the salvation of our own souls but all those who are in need of our prayers and our witnessing to the truth. We must fight the good battle and take back what the devil is doing to our church.
Join with me in the recitation of the Rosary, for with our Holy Mother she will bring us all to Jesus who is the truth.The Rosary is Powerful and it will lead us to victory in this spiritual battle of good angainst evil. Please pray with me so that all of our fallen away brothers and sisters in Jesus, will be brought back to the
true and authentic teachings of our gift from heaven, our Catholic and apostolic faith and the source and summit of our faith: the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. He is with us today, as He was 2007 years ago.

God Bless

 

[alanjeddy]

So was St. John Vianney. He was refused admission to the seminary several times. However, it did not stop him from doing God’s work.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

Thank you for sticking up for Father Corapi! I bet most of those priests were very liberal.

Bless you Shiphrae,

Alan

 

[alanjeddy]

Not silly, just obvious.

Matthew 6:26
Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

The above passage very clearly says that we are more valuable than other creatures.
Yes, God loves all of His creation. However, only man is made in His image.

Of course we are and Shiphrae’s point is right, I should have said God did make us in His image.

Alan

 

[Shiphrae]

Thank you for sticking up for Father Corapi! I bet most of those priests were very liberal.

Bless you Shiphrae,

Alan

Thank you Alan. I love Father Corapi. I wish that we could have a couple like him in my area. He would bring many young people back to Church. He’s interesting and courageous enough to tell the truth.

I’m sure you’re right about the priests being liberal.

Peace be with you,
Shiphrae

 

[anamchara]

You say there is nothing to worry about?

 

[anamchara]

Thank you Alan. I love Father Corapi. I wish that we could have a couple like him in my area. He would bring many young people back to Church. He’s interesting and courageous enough to tell the truth.

I’m sure you’re right about the priests being liberal.

Peace be with you,
Shiphrae

I don’t know if it was a liberal thing as much as they didn’t like his hell fire and brimstone approach. We need to be careful about cashing the faithful away with that sort of thing. Leave it that sort of thing for the evangelical Protestants.

I agree with you though, he does seem like a very warm and genuine person. His heart is pure and he means well.

 

[peary]

I believe that we have bigger problems than whether or not the liturgy is in Latin.

A while ago my family and I had a meal with our parish priest. In conversation I mentioned the love that one has for a child. My daughter had a cat and she loved that cat dearly. I told her that the love for her child was going to be far greater than the love she had for her cat. She was offended. I was expecting our priest to agree with me but instead he rebuked me. He said that love is love and that I should not make light of it.

This is an issue that has come up in the younger generation many times. They talk as though animals are equal to humans in importance on earth. Surely a priest should not agree with that philosophy.

Did Jesus come on earth to save animals or did he come to save humans? The Bible said that God created humans in His own image. And it goes on to say that God gave us dominion over everything on earth. Surely that means that we are superior to animals. This makes me wonder whether the clergy is even making an attempt to bring the Word of God to the younger generation.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

**I’m surprised a bit at the priest for even sticking his nose into your business, but it could have been approached through the approach Jesus always used where, if this girl or boy loves her/his cat, then how much more will they love their child - a gift from God!

 

[peary]

**Or, like Jesus said, if God takes care of even the sparrows and birds in the air, how much moreso shall God love a child - made in His image!

 

[KathleenElsie]

I don’t know if it was a liberal thing as much as they didn’t like his hell fire and brimstone approach. We need to be careful about cashing the faithful away with that sort of thing. Leave it that sort of thing for the evangelical Protestants.

I agree with you though, he does seem like a very warm and genuine person. His heart is pure and he means well.

If we leave it to the evangelical Protestants then they will continue to grow with those that leave the Catholic Faith. On another thread the Cardinals are said to see if we can learn how to teach like the Protestants.

 

[Shiphrae]

originally posted by peary
I’m surprised a bit at the priest for even sticking his nose into your business, but it could have been approached through the approach Jesus always used where, if this girl or boy loves her/his cat, then how much more will they love their child - a gift from God!

Hi peary, nice to have you back.

The thing is that I find this thing in the younger people of making animals equal to humans, quite upsetting. Father Benedict Groeschel was taking about it. He said that it comes from being very narcissistic. They love animals for what the creatures can do for them. Humans require more giving of oneself.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

 

[Shiphrae]

If we leave it to the evangelical Protestants then they will continue to grow with those that leave the Catholic Faith. On another thread the Cardinals are said to see if we can learn how to teach like the Protestants.

Yes. And no one will escape the Truth when they face their savior. It is better to face some discomfort now than have an eternity in hell.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

 

[peary]

**There is a ‘liberal’ all-girl’s high school (catholic) in this area, and they are ‘into’ saving the ecology, global warming and all that stuff. They posted pictures of battered animals (by humans), like seals, dogs, cats, etc. on a big bulletin board with comments about the cruelty of human beings. One of the girls put a few pictures of aborted fetuses next to the battered animals. This grossed out so many students that they complained, and the girl was suspended. The teachers and principal had nothing but contempt for the parents and the girl because the administration said it was ‘inappropriate.’

This shows you where we are…even in so-called ‘catholic’ education.**

 

[Shiphrae]

**There is a ‘liberal’ all-girl’s high school (catholic) in this area, and they are ‘into’ saving the ecology, global warming and all that stuff. They posted pictures of battered animals (by humans), like seals, dogs, cats, etc. on a big bulletin board with comments about the cruelty of human beings. One of the girls put a few pictures of aborted fetuses next to the battered animals. This grossed out so many students that they complained, and the girl was suspended. The teachers and principal had nothing but contempt for the parents and the girl because the administration said it was ‘inappropriate.’

This shows you where we are…even in so-called ‘catholic’ education.**

It’s horrible! And it’s been going on for many years. What amazes me is how a huge percentage of people don’t even see the horror of it.

**Well, I guess we have to pray very much. Good thing that our God is SO MERCIFUL! **

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

 

[anamchara]

Probably because St. Matthew said this:

“Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!”

• St. Matthew 7:13-14

And St. Paul this:

Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation.

• Philippians 2:12

I’d rather trust the Bible then this new age mentality that thinks salvation is easy. Fr. Corapi is spot on here!

Fundamentalists just kidding, couldn’t resist.

 

[CradleCath]

[SIGN]LOL My daughter, granddaughter and I wear skirts or dresses to Mass. My husband SIL and their boys wear nice slacks with button shirts and jackets when needed. When we were described to the new music director the church secretary said we were the “Amish” family. The poor man thought we drove a buggy to Mass.[/SIGN]

You are surely bringing back memories. When I was a young girl, myself & my siblings had what were called “Church clothes”. We all attended Catholic schools & wore uniforms there. Then we had our “play clothes” & our “Church Clothes” As you say, they were dresses for us girls & dress pants & white shirts for the boys.
As I grew up & became a Mom myself, my husband & I continued this habit. Can’t tell you HOW many times I said, "Go straight into the house & change out of your “Church Clothes” before you start playing. It will bring about nothing good if you get mud on your “Church shoes”. I have a feeling that if you asked a teenager today where his “Church Clothes” are, they’d answer you with a “Say WHAT??”

 

[CradleCath]

[SIGN]

Did I not just type that they use to allow priests to get married? Please read through the post carefully before reply that was my answer along with how it would distract them from the call and how a man should not be divided between the church and his family, and more.

[/SIGN]

And you’re in the Eighth grade? I think you’re fabulous. Most 8th graders that I know would NEVER have had the courage to stand up to a teacher who was wrong. Way to GO!!!

 

[Shiphrae]

The devil has a good hold on our society. He works in very sneaky ways.

One of the thing that people are doing is- (the older people) if there is a disagreement between two people, they always side with the younger one. It does not matter who is right. They want to look as though they are ‘with it’. They want to be on the side of popular opinion. We ‘old foggies’ don’t know anything. And these older people don’t want to be part of ‘the old foggies’. As a young person was telling me once when Pope John Paul 2 was still with us, “why should I listen to some old man?”. This is what I think our priest was doing when he rebuked me. (see my story in previous post).

I think that this is part of the liberalism. Always be on the side of popular opinion. That translates into the side of the younger people.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

 

[peary]

The devil has a good hold on our society. He works in very sneaky ways.

One of the thing that people are doing is- (the older people) if there is a disagreement between two people, they always side with the younger one. It does not matter who is right. They want to look as though they are ‘with it’. They want to be on the side of popular opinion. We ‘old foggies’ don’t know anything. And these older people don’t want to be part of ‘the old foggies’. As a young person was telling me once when Pope John Paul 2 was still with us, “why should I listen to some old man?”. This is what I think our priest was doing when he rebuked me. (see my story in previous post).

I think that this is part of the liberalism. Always be on the side of popular opinion. That translates into the side of the younger people.

Peace of Christ,
Shiphrae

**The only time I’ve experienced that is with administration. They cater to the young teachers and write the rest of us off.

I made it a habit of only siding with a younger one if he or she has a relevent point to be made or to stick up for them via the Union if an injustice has been done to them. Otherwise, as a general rule, they are incredibly arrogant and think they know everything. Well, thirty years ago if they went to college, they wouldn’t be able to hack the workload whatsoever. I mean, how can you take serious a group that insists that A.D. means “after death”? LOL**