Liberals Abortion Proposal Sunk From Within Party Ranks By Pro-Life Members of Parliament

[Soutane]

catholicregister.org/canada/4013

 

[Biggie]

A liberal proposal is never “sunk”. It is merely deferred. One step backwards, two steps forward.

The really disturbing aspect of the entire health care issue is this type of sentiment from the defenders of life:

“They took something that was good and noble and made it into something dark and deadly.”

We couldn’t agree more that anti-life initiatives are “dark and deadly”. But since when does the framework that aids and abets such initiatives, socialized medicine, become something “good and noble”?

 

[St_Francis]

A liberal proposal is never “sunk”. It is merely deferred. One step backwards, two steps forward.

The really disturbing aspect of the entire health care issue is this type of sentiment from the defenders of life: “They took something that was good and noble and made it into something dark and deadly.”

We couldn’t agree more that anti-life initiatives are “dark and deadly”. But since when does the framework that aids and abets such initiatives, socialized medicine, become something “good and noble”?

I think that this refers to trying to help women and children in very poor nations.

From here: as [the Canadian Conservative government] makes plans to** promote the cause of maternal and child health care in the developing world **as president of this year’s G8 summit in June.

The Conservative government initially had refused to support contraception and abortion in their plan, saying that **they intended to promote maternal and child health through such things as clean water, inoculations, and good medical care. **

 

[Biggie]

I think that this refers to trying to help women and children in very poor nations.

From here: as [the Canadian Conservative government] makes plans to** promote the cause of maternal and child health care in the developing world **as president of this year’s G8 summit in June.

The Conservative government initially had refused to support contraception and abortion in their plan, saying that **they intended to promote maternal and child health through such things as clean water, inoculations, and good medical care. **

Point taken. I have socialized medicine fatigue.

 

[Soutane]

A liberal proposal is never “sunk”. It is merely deferred. One step backwards, two steps forward.

The really disturbing aspect of the entire health care issue is this type of sentiment from the defenders of life:

We couldn’t agree more that anti-life initiatives are “dark and deadly”. But since when does the framework that aids and abets such initiatives, socialized medicine, become something “good and noble”?

Will you please keep on topic.Universal medecine which apparantly is some kind of American Bogeyman or HooDoo works fine up here and in EVERY OTHER industrialised society in the world.I am sick of being attacked for this everytime I post something even remotely linked to healthcare.Your insurance companies have done quite the job on you.

 

[Biggie]

Will you please keep on topic.Universal medecine which apparantly is some kind of American Bogeyman or HooDoo works fine up here and in EVERY OTHER industrialised society in the world.I am sick of being attacked for this everytime I post something even remotely linked to healthcare.Your insurance companies have done quite the job on you.

A clear case of dueling fatigue. I see you one sick and tired and raise you another. I am sick and tired of the glories of socialized medicine which were strangely unrecognized until some months ago when the ills of the American free market were discovered coincidental to the need to sell socialized medicine to our voters.

But I stand duly chastised.

 

[Soutane]

A clear case of dueling fatigue. I see you one sick and tired and raise you another. I am sick and tired of the glories of socialized medicine which were strangely unrecognized until some months ago when the ills of the American free market were discovered coincidental to the need to sell socialized medicine to our voters.

But I stand duly chastised.

WE"RE not trying to sell you anything.Canadians could care less what form of medecincal delivery Americans desire.You are a sovereign nation as are we.I’m sick of the slandar my country is slapped with just because you people are so upset with each other over the concept of “socialized” medecine and the racorous debate that is going on in your country."Socialized"is code for communistic and our Universal Health Care is anything but.Why don’t you ask Sarah Palin whom I truly admire how she and her family took advantage of our medical system.Settle your own differences but don’t drag us into it.It works for us.We could care less what you decide.

 

[Biggie]

WE"RE not trying to sell you anything.Canadians could care less what form of medecincal delivery Americans desire.You are a sovereign nation as are we.I’m sick of the slandar my country is slapped with just because you people are so upset with each other over the concept of “socialized” medecine and the racorous debate that is going on in your country."Socialized"is code for communistic and our Universal Health Care is anything but.Why don’t you ask Sarah Palin whom I truly admire how she and her family took advantage of our medical system.Settle your own differences but don’t drag us into it.It works for us.We could care less what you decide.

Now you’re derailing your own thread after I stood chastised. And you do sound so sensitive to the matter. I think Ms. Palin’s involvement with the Canadian system is a matter of record and I do not think you can draw from it an endorsement. Canadian’s have my permission for what its worth to a Canadian system, as functional or dysfunctional as it may be. All Americans want is an American system and not to be told that the Canadian system is more noble.

 

[Soutane]

Now you’re derailing your own thread after I stood chastised. And you do sound so sensitive to the matter. I think Ms. Palin’s involvement with the Canadian system is a matter of record and I do not think you can draw from it an endorsement. Canadian’s have my permission for what its worth to a Canadian system, as functional or dysfunctional as it may be. All Americans want is an American system and not to be told that the Canadian system is more noble.

CANADIANS are not telling you that.Your own democratically elected Democrat Party is telling you that.Not us.I am sensitive to the matter because my country has been constantly slandered here since the beginning of the debate in YOUR country.Leave us out of it-I could care less for your sardonic and condescending “permission” to choose our own Health Care System.You are confusing US with the people you have issues with WITHIN your country.I did not draw an endorsement from Palin’s use of OUR system.You project too much sir-I stated it as fact.AMERICANS are telling you it’s more noble-not us.You live in a democracy,decide for yourselves and stop demonizing us and a health care system that you know nothing about.

 

[St_Francis]

Now you’re derailing your own thread after I stood chastised. And you do sound so sensitive to the matter. I think Ms. Palin’s involvement with the Canadian system is a matter of record and I do not think you can draw from it an endorsement. Canadian’s have my permission for what its worth to a Canadian system, as functional or dysfunctional as it may be. All Americans want is an American system and not to be told that the Canadian system is more noble.

Sarah Palin’s family, when she was a child, used Canadian doctors, *before Canada universalized its medical system. *This was apparently the norm where she lived, as it was easier to get to Canada than to the US.

 

[St_Francis]

I think that this refers to trying to help women and children in very poor nations.

From here: as [the Canadian Conservative government] makes plans to** promote the cause of maternal and child health care in the developing world **as president of this year’s G8 summit in June.

The Conservative government initially had refused to support contraception and abortion in their plan, saying that **they intended to promote maternal and child health through such things as clean water, inoculations, and good medical care. **

I personally applaud the Canadian government for wanting to do things which will *really *improve maternal and child health care in the developing world.

Lack of clean water is a huge health problem, and child are less able to fight off some of what’s in the water.

Innoculations: I was *horrified *to read (some time ago, so I have no idea where to look for the link) that PP was in remote areas, but people who gave innoculations were unable to get to those areas due to lack of infrastructure. So sad.

And of course good medical care will help everyone’s health!

to the Canadians