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[Detroit_Sue]

Looking up something else in the GIRM, I came across this. It is at the Epiclesis that the Consecration takes effect. Paragraph 79 (I have only pasted the applicable sub paragraph):
79. The chief elements making up the Eucharistic Prayer may be distinguished in this way:

Epiclesis: In which, by means of particular invocations, the Church implores the power of the Holy Spirit that the gifts offered by human hands be consecrated, that is, become Christ’s Body and Blood, and that the spotless Victim to be received in Communion be for the salvation of those who will partake of it.

My first answer was right, I guess.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

It is not through any human power that the elements become the Body and Blood of Christ. It is through the power of the Holy Spirit. The moment of Consecration takes place when the words of Consecration are spoken by the priest. These are the words in red in the Sacramentary.

 

[dmh]

Bro. Rich SFO, You said there ARE 2 ways of receiving our LORD, which is the way I was taught. But Detroit Sue says there AREN"T 2 ways to receive Him. Which is correct? In a spiritual communion are you receiving Him Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, or are you just receiving Him spiritually? Also, call me “dumb” ( but I am trying to learn as much about our Catholic faith as possible), but I thought when the priest placed his hands over the gifts and said (from the eucharist prayer #2)
" Lord, you are holy indeed, the fountain of all holiness. Let Your Spirit come upon thes gifts to make them holy, + so that they may become for us the body and blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Before He was given up to death, a death He freely accepted, He took Bread and gaveYou thanks. He broke the bread, gave it to His disciples, and said: Take this, all of you, and eat it: this is My body which will be given up for you. Etc…" that this was when the bread became Our Lord.?? Again, Father did NOT say these words at Mass yesterday. There was no consecration. Please correct me if I am wrong about the point of the bread and wine becoming Our Lord. But at Mass, after Father has said these words and elevated the Blessed Sacrament, the bells are rung to alert us to the presence of the Lord.

 

[EENS]

dmh:

Bro. Rich SFO, You said there ARE 2 ways of receiving our LORD, which is the way I was taught. But Detroit Sue says there AREN"T 2 ways to receive Him. Which is correct? In a spiritual communion are you receiving Him Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, or are you just receiving Him spiritually? Also, call me “dumb” ( but I am trying to learn as much about our Catholic faith as possible), but I thought when the priest placed his hands over the gifts and said (from the eucharist prayer #2)
" Lord, you are holy indeed, the fountain of all holiness. Let Your Spirit come upon thes gifts to make them holy, + so that they may become for us the body and blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Before He was given up to death, a death He freely accepted, He took Bread and gaveYou thanks. He broke the bread, gave it to His disciples, and said: Take this, all of you, and eat it: this is My body which will be given up for you. Etc…" that this was when the bread became Our Lord.?? Again, Father did NOT say these words at Mass yesterday. There was no consecration. Please correct me if I am wrong about the point of the bread and wine becoming Our Lord. But at Mass, after Father has said these words and elevated the Blessed Sacrament, the bells are rung to alert us to the presence of the Lord.

The Words of Consecration for the Host are “Hoc est enim Corpus Meam” ("[For] This is My Body"). That is when the Host becomes Our Lord whole and entire. God bless.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

When you receive a Spiritual Communion you receive Him spiritually. When you receive Him in the Blessed Sacrament you receive Him physically under the form of Bread and/or Wine.

The words you indicate in red are the words necessary for the Consecration of the bread.