Life at Conception question

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In the medieval church they didn’t argue about when life begins. They argued about ensoulment. But the Church condemned abortion at every stage even when they thought that ensoulment occured later (at ‘quickening.’)

Now, nobody cares about “ensoulment” except pro-aborts who want to use it for their cause, even though they don’t believe in souls anyway.

Really, this is a scientific, not a religious issue. When does a new individual of the human species have its beginning? Nowhere else than at conception. The only question is whether all human beings deserve protection.

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YinYangMom,
Except that’s not the real topic at hand, instead it is their disillusionment with the Church. … vent about the Church changing positions over time
I see. That clarifies the issue a bit. What never-changing Church do they attend? Next time they vent about the Church changing positions over time, ask them why they assert that the Bible only has 66 books in it when the 15th century Ecumenical Council of Florence, over a century prior to Protestantism, declared the Bible to have 73-books, the same books declared to be the Bible in AD 382 by Pope Damasus. By what authority do they make such an assertion? Protestant doctrine regarding soteriology (faith alone) and authority (Bible alone) cannot be found in the Bible, and did not exist prior to the Protestant Reformation, whereas every *de fide *dogma of Catholicism was taught clearly in the first 1000 years of Christianity.

What appears to the non-Catholics as doctrinal change, is understood by Catholics as doctrinal development. The doctrine of the Trinity is the classic example. There are many Protestants who reject that Jesus is “eternally begotten of the Father.” They reject this doctrine because it is not found in Scripture and it opposes their personal modern interpretation of Scritpure. They are right. It is nowhere found *explicitly *in Scripture, and depending upon their personal interpretation of Scripture, it may very well oppose there modern views.

Nonetheless, the Catholic Church declared at the Council of Nicea in the 4th century that the doctrine of Eternal Sonship was part of the orthodox faith. The majority of Protestants accept it, appearantly agreeing with the Church that it was implicit in what was taught by the apostles in the first century. The Church’s understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity, in other words, *developed over time. *It was part of the deposit of faith that Jesus was “eternally begotten of the Father”, yet it was only implicit in what the apostles’ handed on. If it were explicit in apostolic teaching, it’s doubtful that any opposing dispute would have taken hold of the Church and lasted as long and as wide spread as was Arianism. Thus, even some Protestants assert that our understanding of apostolic doctrine can develop, and consequently would never characterize such development as a “change” in apostolic teaching.

Before the doctrine that Jesus was “eternally begotten of the Father” was made *de fide definita *(infallibly defined as a doctrine of faith that must be held by all the faithful), the doctrine of the Eternal Sonship of Christ was indeed taught by the Church, but there were also many opposing viewpoints that were heterodox, but not formally heretical. Once the Church makes a judgment against a theolocial opinion that was up to that time merely tolerated, it can be no longer considered among the field of free opinions for a faithful Catholic.

Abortion is not a matter of free opinion for Catholics, and never has been. From the very earliest documents of the Church (Letter of Barnabas, Didache, etc), it was condemned. On the other hand, only some ensoulment theories have been condemend by the Church, while other contradictory theories can be held freely. There is no de fide definita regarding the various doctrines of ensoulment, and there never has been. Therefore, like the time prior to the *de fide definita *declaration regarding the Eternal Sonship of Chrst, various viewpoints can still be held that may be considered heterodox, but not formally heretical. That, in my opinion, is not the Church changing a mind it had already made up with absolute certainty (as with abortion), but is more a case of the Church growing in understanding of the one deposit of faith handed on by the apostles.
 
Regarding the Church teaching on ensoulment…

The Church teaches with high degree of certainty (but less than absolute infallible certainty) regarding the orthodoxy of the ensoulment theory called Creationism. It has condemned the other ensoulment theories falling outside of Creationism. However, it is not absolutely certain as to differing views within Creationism regarding the details of ensoulment, namely the *specific point in time *God infuses the rational soul in the human body. Most modern theologians assert that it is at conception, yet such detail of Creationism has never been formally defined by the Church. Yet, it always conceded that whether a person has a human soul or whether a life is about to receive a human soul, it is not permissible to deliberately and willfully abort a fetus.
Consequently, according the Dr. Ludwig Ott’s *Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, *Creationism is described as an ensoulment doctrine that is a *sententia certa *(a certain teaching) of the Church (not *de fide *or infallible dogma of Catholicism).

According to Dr. Ott…

Pre-existentianism (Plato’s theory that the soul pre-exists prior to connection with the body) was accepted by Origen and some that followed Origenism such as Didymus of Alexandria. It was a doctrine rejected by the Church by a Synod at Constantinople (543) and a Synod at Braga (561).

Emanationism (souls proceed by continous emanation from God) was a gnostic-manichaean teaching an is asserted by some modern forms of pantheism. It was rejected by the Council of Vatican I.

**Generationism **(souls are generated as the body is, from the parents by human generation). Tertullian’s traducianism falls into this category, which asserts the child’s souls is part of the soul-substance of the parents. A different form of generationism was held by St. Augustine to be possible, and in the 19th century by other theologians (e.g. Rosmini) as probable. In the latter form, the soul of the child is distinct from the parents yet emerges from the parents. Pope Benedict demanded condemnation of generationism as a pre-condition of the Union, from the Armenians (1341). Pope Leo XIII condemned the teaching or Rosmini (1887).
 
to be continued …

Creationism (each individual soul is created by God out of nothing at the moment of its unification with the body). Taught by the vast majority of early Church Fathers, by the Schoolmen (St. Thomas Aquinas, et al), and by modern theology. “The doctrine is not defined; it is however, indirectly expressed in the decision of faith of the 5th General Lateran Council [1513]” (Ludwig Ott, ibid, p. 100). It was also taught by Pope Leo IX (1053) and Pope Pius XII (1950). “Most of the Fathers, especially the Greek, are adherents of creationism. While St. Jerome decisively advocates creationism, St. Augustine wavered all his life between generationism and creationism (Ep. 166)” (Ott, ibid). What varied in these theories of creationism is the notion of *WHEN *God unified the rational soul with the body. The Church has never defined this aspect of Creationism. Within the history of Church teaching, the *when *of Creationism has been influenced by Aristotelian-scholastic viewpoint. Consequently, there’s been some distinction made between what was called *feotus informis *(unformed fetus) and *feotus formata *(formed fetus). The precise time as to when a fetus was a “formed fetus” thereby possing a rational soul has been speculated upon throughout the history of Christianity. It was never defined by the Church, even to this day. Yet, even if undefined, some attempted to propose that since a fetus did not possess a rational soul until it was born, abortion was not a homicide. This proposition was condemend by Pope Innocent XI in 1679.

The following propositions were condemned by Pope Innocent XI without, however, defining when the body is unified with the rational soul:
  1. It is permitted to bring about an abortion before the animation of the foetus, lest the girl found pregnant be killed or defamed.
  2. It seems probable that every foetus (as long as it is in the womb) lacks a rational soul and begins to have the same at the time that it is born; and consequently it will have to be said that no homicide is committed in any abortion. (condemned by Decree of the Holy Office, Mar 4, 1679, Denzinger 1184-1185).
 
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