Life's "ultimate meaning", and the value of money

[Betterave]

Then let me put it like this. He **thinks **he is limited but in fact he isn’t - just as he thinks his daughter’s value is only his opinion but in fact it isn’t.

Yes. The point I wanted to emphasize was that he is wrong even if he is right, because his way of viewing things contradicts itself (not that he cares about that, necessarily). In other words, you won’t be able to get him to understand your view as being right, until he properly understands his own view (which entails understanding that it is wrong/absurd). Until someone is *willing *to move beyond absurdity (this is an act of the will, not just the intellect), it will tend to be futile to argue with him.

 

[tonyrey]

Yes. The point I wanted to emphasize was that he is wrong even if he is right, because his way of viewing things contradicts itself (not that he cares about that, necessarily). In other words, you won’t be able to get him to understand your view as being right, until he properly understands his own view (which entails understanding that it is wrong/absurd). Until someone is *willing *to move beyond absurdity (this is an act of the will, not just the intellect), it will tend to be futile to argue with him.

I think that is a purely academic issue now he has retired from the scene but I have the satisfaction of knowing my questions remain unanswered - particularly the ones about the value of his reasoning and the value of his daughter! Try as I might I cannot see how their value can possibly be entirely subjective. It remains to be seen if anyone else will take up the gauntlet…