F
Faith1960
Guest
I thought that the offspring of Adam and Eve interbred with those close to them .
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
S
sirach2v4
Guest
it’s been said so many times and so many ways, the Bible isn’t a science textbook. That’s enough for me.It was written to teach us faith. There’s no cure for cancer in there, that doesn’t mean the Bible is useless.I thought that the offspring of Adam and Eve interbred with those close to them .
H
HelenRose
Guest
What modern genetics has proven is that we are one family. Sometime - somewhere in the distant pass there was a woman and a man. We have common ancestors - these humans have been given the name Adam and Eve. We are brothers and sisters of this couple. All races are united as one. We are black, brown, light brown, beige, short, tall, skinny, fat, beautiful children all around the world and we have the same parents.I’ve been reading about Adam and Eve, trying to learn th other position-- that they were the first people on earth. As some of you know, I’ve been hung up on there supposedly being a human bottleneck of no fewer than 10,000 people or so.
I read this one article that said the information is there if you know where to look but I can find it. I did find some stuff talking about calibration or something.
Can anyone provide links to scientific information that shows Adam and Eve were the first people on earth?
E
edwest2
Guest
I don’t think I understand where faith is involved. From your perspective, did God not act at every stage of creation, especially by creating the first man and first woman?When I said that Intelligent Design compares living with non-living but both are designed, I meant that atoms, the periodic table of elements, the stars and planets also take intelligence to be designed and produced. I understand the argument of the ID advocates, but since materialists believe non-living (and living) nature to have come about somehow without intelligence means there is *faith *involved to believe everything has come from intelligence.
Ed
F
Faith1960
Guest
Can you explain how this happened?What modern genetics has proven is that we are one family. Sometime - somewhere in the distant pass there was a woman and a man. We have common ancestors - these humans have been given the name Adam and Eve. We are brothers and sisters of this couple. All races are united as one. We are black, brown, light brown, beige, short, tall, skinny, fat, beautiful children all around the world and we have the same parents.
H
HelenRose
Guest
Of course not.Can you explain how this happened?
Science searches for the how.
Religion searches for the why.
I love both.
E
edwest2
Guest
The how-why answer is totally false. Only the Catholic Church holds the fullness of the truth. There are things God actually did. Science is limited.Of course not.
Science searches for the how.
Religion searches for the why.
I love both.
Ed
F
Faith1960
Guest
This is from a priest:
Read paragraph 70.
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040723_communion-stewardship_en.html
Read paragraph 70.
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040723_communion-stewardship_en.html
H
HelenRose
Guest
I suppose that my reasoning comes from the belief that science is one of the many gifts that the Church has given the world.The how-why answer is totally false. Only the Catholic Church holds the fullness of the truth. There are things God actually did. Science is limited.
Ed
People misuse both religion and science and often use both to further their own agendas.
F
Faith1960
Guest
I agree with you.I suppose that my reasoning comes from the belief that science is one of the many gifts that the Church has given the world.
People misuse both religion and science and often use both to further their own agendas.
E
edwest2
Guest
How God did things is illustrated by Jesus Christ raising the dead, giving sight to the blind and so on. We, as Christians, know how God works. Science cannot be viewed as anything other than a closed system invented by men… at least, that’s how it is now. And that is how it is being presented to the public.I suppose that my reasoning comes from the belief that science is one of the many gifts that the Church has given the world.
People misuse both religion and science and often use both to further their own agendas.
Ed
N
NM505StKate
Guest
Science as found in the dictionary. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scienceHow God did things is illustrated by Jesus Christ raising the dead, giving sight to the blind and so on. We, as Christians, know how God works. Science cannot be viewed as anything other than a closed system invented by men… at least, that’s how it is now. And that is how it is being presented to the public.
Ed
Nothing in that definition says a “close system” not have I seen it presented to the public.
W
womanatwell
Guest
The Bible at the USCCB website has footnotes about this passage (see link below). They call it a legend. The Nephilim are called “heroes of old” in the Genesis passage, and the Nephilim are called “Sons of God” and the women “daughters of humans.” Couldn’t this be some variation of what a tribe of humans might be called? In a different case, we know Christ as the Son of God and yet He often called Himself the Son of Man.I thought that the offspring of Adam and Eve interbred with those close to them .
usccb.org/bible/genesis/6 .
Or is this not that to which you refer?
W
womanatwell
Guest
From my perspective, yes. But how do you explain that others can deny it?I don’t think I understand where faith is involved. From your perspective, did God not act at every stage of creation, especially by creating the first man and first woman?
Ed
In Romans 1, verses 19-21, it says that the divine attributes of God through His creation were able to be known since the beginning, but because persons did not acknowledge Him, “they became vain in their reasoning and their senseless minds were darkened.” I am not talking about people who believe God created the universe and had everything else pre-programmed, but otherwise, it seems we see plenty of that darkness today. Links from USCCB website Bible (NABRE):
usccb.org/bible/romans/1 .
Hebrews 11:6 says that “without faith it is impossible to please Him, for anyone who approaches God must believe He exists and rewards those who seek Him.”. It seems a gift to have the faith to believe that God created the universe and ourselves.
usccb.org/bible/hebrews/11 .
E
edwest2
Guest
I disagree. Regarding the topic, nothing outside of “natural events” science resulted in human genetics.Science as found in the dictionary. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science
Nothing in that definition says a “close system” not have I seen it presented to the public.
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Romans 1:20 NIV
Ed
- Status
- Not open for further replies.