Lipstick for Communion

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Hi,

We’ve spoken about many forms of irreverence during Mass and the reception of Holy Communion—cell phones, hand held games, noisey toys, food and drink, crying children, talking or fidgeting in general, etc, but I’ve never seen lipstick discussed here. I’ve often heard the linen ladies say it is very difficult to remove from the linens.

What do you think of wearing heavy lipstick and receiving Holy Communion by mouth or receiving the Precious Blood? I feel it is very irreverent to use sacred vessels and linens in this manner.

Lux
 
I wear a non-transferable lipstick which doesn’t leave kiss or cup traces so the issue doesn’t arise for me. My husband prefers me to wear lipstick and reproves me when I don’t. It is not that women shouldn’t use lipstick but if possible they may choose a brand that doesn’t transfer to chalice or purifier.
 
Trishie said:
I wear a non-transferable lipstick which doesn’t leave kiss or cup traces so the issue doesn’t arise for me. My husband prefers me to wear lipstick and reproves me when I don’t. It is not that women shouldn’t use lipstick but if possible they may choose a brand that doesn’t transfer to chalice or purifier.
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Does it have gluten? You and all lipstick wearers should be considerate to wear a non gluten lipstick for the members of the congregation who suffer from wheat allergies and can only receive from the cup.
 
I’m Celiac!!! Therefore very aware of this issue! 🙂

Thank you for thinking of us!
 
And don’t kiss the Tabernacle when wearing lipstick. Our poor altar lady spends an hour each week cleaning lipstick off the Tabernacle. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, or the statues. The wooden or porous ceramic ones are really very damaged by lipstick.
 
We do a lot of kissing of icons in the eastern church, and it is considered polite etiquette to not wear lipstick to church if one plans to venerate icons in such a manner (kissing). Still, I have seen my share of lipstick stains on icons and glass covers over icons in my time.
 
samcarter14 said:
We do a lot of kissing of icons in the eastern church, and it is considered polite etiquette to not wear lipstick to church if one plans to venerate icons in such a manner (kissing). Still, I have seen my share of lipstick stains on icons and glass covers over icons in my time.
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I’ve seen it on statues and the cross as well.
 
samcarter14 said:
We do a lot of kissing of icons in the eastern church, and it is considered polite etiquette to not wear lipstick to church if one plans to venerate icons in such a manner (kissing). Still, I have seen my share of lipstick stains on icons and glass covers over icons in my time.
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In the Levant, it’s rather common to venerate an Icon by touching one’s forehead to it and/or “take the blessing” by touching one’s fingers (thumb, index and middle fingers of the right hand together) to one’s lips, then touching the Icon, then in turn touching the fingers to one’s lips again. It’s reverent and hygienic at the same time. That’s the way I learned. I venerate icons regularly and have never done it any other way.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
And don’t kiss the Tabernacle when wearing lipstick. Our poor altar lady spends an hour each week cleaning lipstick off the Tabernacle. :rolleyes:
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Now that’s a new one on me. The question that comes to mind is: what are people doing inside the sanctuary? Even if there’s a separate Altar of Repose, why are people approaching it to kiss (or touch, or whatever) the tabernacle?
 
Joe_Kelley said:
And don’t kiss the Tabernacle when wearing lipstick. Our poor altar lady spends an hour each week cleaning lipstick off the Tabernacle. :rolleyes:
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Lux_et_Tenebrae said:
Yes, or the statues. The wooden or porous ceramic ones are really very damaged by lipstick.
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Seatuck said:
I’ve seen it on statues and the cross as well.
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Holy cow. I wish we had some problems like that in our diocese.

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PBP said:
*Celiac ??? *
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Gluten intolerance. Its an auto-immune disease. People with Celiac cannot consume wheat, rye, barley and most oats.

Lipstick may contain wheat. So if you have a lot of lipstick on, receive from the Chalice, some of that wheat may remain on the Chalice. Those of us with Celiac that receive after you, could then have a reaction to the wheat.
 
malphono said:
In the Levant, it’s rather common to venerate an Icon by touching one’s forehead to it and/or “take the blessing” by touching one’s fingers (thumb, index and middle fingers of the right hand together) to one’s lips, then touching the Icon, then in turn touching the fingers to one’s lips again. It’s reverent and hygienic at the same time. That’s the way I learned. I venerate icons regularly and have never done it any other way.
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We kiss ikons out here in the West!
 
malphono said:
Now that’s a new one on me. The question that comes to mind is: what are people doing inside the sanctuary? Even if there’s a separate Altar of Repose, why are people approaching it to kiss (or touch, or whatever) the tabernacle?
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We have an adoration chapel parallel to the main church and separated by windows. The tabernacle is free standing in the front of the chapel. This allows adoration to continue during wedding rehearsals, choir rehearsals, etc. This is especially valuable since we have 24 hour exposition on the 4th-5th of each month and Friday-Saturday each week.
 
PBP said:
*Celiac ??? *
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Celiac or Coeliac disease as we spell it in Australia is an auto-immune illness where any consumption of wheat (barley, oats, rye) is harmful. Ii causes activation of antibodies, atrophy of intestinal villi and causes malabsorption of nutrients.

If a gluten-free diet is not strictly followed various cancers and illnesses can also occur. It can cause osteoporosis and thyroid illness…and both of these, and including years of intestinal discomfort, resulted for me because diagnosis as a Coeliac (Celiac) didn’t come in my early years.
I was diagnosed in recent years after I’d broken the bones of my right wrist in a minor fall. My osteoporosis had puzzled my doctor as it was increasing at 3 times the average rate of anyone my age, until I broke these bones and then the light went on in his head. A pleasant side effect of sticking to a gluten-free diet has been the disappearance of lifelong sinus problems…so Seatuck wasn’t speaking lightly when mentioning the gluten issue concerning lipsticks, as some of them contain oat or wheat starch.

So yes, there are some of us who have to read the ingredients on any prepared or packaged foods for any trace of gluten, and check regarding any restaurant food…just as those who are lactose intolerant or have nut allergies or wheat intolerance are required to.

According to Canon Law, hosts can only be made of wheat and water. This means that to receive the host is a real issue for Celiacs. It can be an issues of struggle for some of us. It is possible to obtain hosts made from wheat starch yet with a very low gluten rating, from the Benedictine Sisters…but if anyone is seen to receive only from the chalice, they are usually either Celiacs or have wheat allergy.
 
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