Not a single point of it at all?None.
Great information to look into. Thank you so much for the information.I found this pretty interesting:“A High Ranking Catholic on Mormonism”
youtube.com/watch?v=vktEaSevdfE
Raises a couple good points.
If i remember correctly, the people who made this video are former Catholics who converted to Mormonism. youtube.com/watch?v=jVoeTX52UZc
You might want to look at a document the LDS church put out called For the Strength of Youth while theologically I may not agree with most of what the LDS church teaches, I think Catholics can stand by this document.I thought abortion and some other issues were in agreement.
To use abortion as an example. Catholics believe life begins at conception. This is why we oppose abortion, in all circumstances.Not a single point of it at all?
Surely, there must be some things that are the same?
Not a thing?
Edit to add,
I thought abortion and some other issues were in agreement.
There are very general/basic similarities between Mormonism and Catholicism.I am not expecting anyone here to give any great detail in answering this broad question.
Just looking for a way to go over a basic checklist and go from there.
Personal commentary or opinion is not what I am asking for here.
Just facts.
We are not in agreement on abortion, and IMO it is because of the disparate doctrines.Not a single point of it at all?
Surely, there must be some things that are the same?
Not a thing?
Edit to add,
I thought abortion and some other issues were in agreement.
The Catholic Church is against “direct abortion”, no matter what the reason. The LDS church is generally against abortion, however it does allow it certain situations. Here is what the LDS Church Handbook of Instructions (Book 1) says:Not a single point of it at all?
Surely, there must be some things that are the same?
Not a thing?
Edit to add,
I thought abortion and some other issues were in agreement.
I agree that there is none - you asked for similar doctrines, not ideas or issues.Not a single point of it at all?
Surely, there must be some things that are the same?
Not a thing?
Edit to add,
I thought abortion and some other issues were in agreement.
Of course there are some general similarities in doctrine. As already mentioned, both churches believe that baptism is necessary for salvation. They disagree on the mode (Catholicism allows for immersion our pouring, Mormonism is only immersion), minister (Catholicism states that the ordained are the ordinary ministers of baptism, and also that anyone, whether Christian or not, can baptize in an emergency. Catholicism also accepts other non-Catholic Trinitarian baptisms as valid. Mormonism teaches that only its priesthood has the authority to validly baptize), and “extraordinary” circumstances (Catholicism has “baptism of desire”, Mormonism says that the mentally disabled and infants do not need to be baptized), however both churches clearly claim that baptism is necessary for salvation.I agree that there is none - you asked for similar doctrines, not ideas or issues.
I am not even sure if they have any doctrines that are definitive and unchanging…do they?
There is a big difference between the two churches doctrines concerning what baptism is, the LDS are closer to Protestants in their understanding of baptism than they are to Catholics.Of course there are some general similarities in doctrine. As already mentioned, both churches believe that baptism is necessary for salvation. They disagree on the mode (Catholicism allows for immersion our pouring, Mormonism is only immersion), minister (Catholicism states that the ordained are the ordinary ministers of baptism, and also that anyone, whether Christian or not, can baptize in an emergency. Catholicism also accepts other non-Catholic Trinitarian baptisms as valid. Mormonism teaches that only its priesthood has the authority to validly baptize), and “extraordinary” circumstances (Catholicism has “baptism of desire”, Mormonism says that the mentally disabled and infants do not need to be baptized), however both churches clearly claim that baptism is necessary for salvation.
I think we need to remember that we are talking about similarities, and not saying that the doctrines are the same. There is of course a diversity of thought within Protestantism on what exactly baptism is, what it does, and whether it is necessary for salvation. On the point of salvation, Mormons agree with Catholics (and whoever else holds a similar view) that baptism is necessary for salvation. As already mentioned, both churches also have qualifications to that statement, and allow “extraordinary” exceptions.There is a big difference between the two churches doctrines concerning what baptism is, the LDS are closer to Protestants in their understanding of baptism than they are to Catholics.
Hi CatholicGuyNY - Thank you for the clarification. Could you please provide your LDS doctrinal references regarding baptism?Of course there are some general similarities in doctrine. As already mentioned, both churches believe that baptism is necessary for salvation. They disagree on the mode (Catholicism allows for immersion our pouring, Mormonism is only immersion), minister (Catholicism states that the ordained are the ordinary ministers of baptism, and also that anyone, whether Christian or not, can baptize in an emergency. Catholicism also accepts other non-Catholic Trinitarian baptisms as valid. Mormonism teaches that only its priesthood has the authority to validly baptize), and “extraordinary” circumstances (Catholicism has “baptism of desire”, Mormonism says that the mentally disabled and infants do not need to be baptized), however both churches clearly claim that baptism is necessary for salvation.
But the title is similarity in doctrine and on baptism being necessary the underlying doctrine is different. Any similarity on baptism is superficial not based on doctrinal similarities.I think we need to remember that we are talking about similarities, and not saying that the doctrines are the same. There is of course a diversity of thought within Protestantism on what exactly baptism is, what it does, and whether it is necessary for salvation. On the point of salvation, Mormons agree with Catholics (and whoever else holds a similar view) that baptism is necessary for salvation. As already mentioned, both churches also have qualifications to that statement, and allow “extraordinary” exceptions.
As a contrast, from what I understand of some Evangelicals, they don’t believe that baptism is necessary for salvation, and is simply a “sign” of something that has already occurred.
Gospel Principles has a chapter on baptism, which references various Mormon scriptures on the subject:Hi CatholicGuyNY - Thank you for the clarification. Could you please provide your LDS doctrinal references regarding baptism?
All that I could find in D&C was a general definition of baptism but it does not explain it as you have. I can find some explanations on a few LDS websites but I am looking for doctrinal references.
Thanks!
The doctrine that I’m talking about is the doctrine that baptism is necessary for salvation. Of course there are underlying differences, however since we’re talking about “similarities” and not “the same”, that is okay. Both churches teach that baptism is necessary for salvation, and that is the similarity that I brought up (with subsequent delineation of a few differences on form, minister, etc). This is especially apparent when contrasted with various Evangelical traditions that teach that baptism is not necessary for salvation.But the title is similarity in doctrine and on baptism being necessary the underlying doctrine is different. Any similarity on baptism is superficial not based on doctrinal similarities.