List of the Churches and the Apostles who founded them

[Cursilista]

Cursilista wrote:
"We are closer to being in full communion with our eastern orthrodox brothers than we are with our protestant brethen."

Cursilista, do not forget that eastern orthodox churches are our sister churches [they are apostolic churches like we are]. Unfortunately, protestant churches are not sister churches; they were born out of heretical teachings. For that reason I can’t consider any protestant follower a “Christian” brethren of mine.

–macaronte

i understand your feelings. I hope and pray that some day the protestants will join Christ’s Chrurch. I like the view of Alex Jones on the subject. Jones was a protestant preacher who converted to the CC. He explains the Protestant denominations this way. When you were young and got angry at your parents, you threaten to leave the big house. You couldnt go far, so you took what you could with you and pitched a tent in the back yard. Your pride prevented you from admitting your error, so you stayed in the backyard as long as you could. Now, you are still a member of the family and have some of the good qualities of that family, but not the fullness of that family because you chose to live outside of the family home. Jones views the protestant denominations as tents in the backyard.

my hope is that one day , they fold up their tents and move back into the big house.

 

[macaronte]

Cursilista quoted from deacon Alex Jones book:
“Your pride prevented you from admitting your error, so you stayed in the backyard as long as you could. Now, you are still a member of the family and have some of the good qualities of that family, but not the fullness of that family because you chose to live outside of the family home. Jones views the protestant denominations as tents in the backyard.”​

Cursilista, I happened to have bought his [deacon Jones’] book. I love Catholic apologetics dearly. Let me forwarn you that English is not my mother language, therefore my choices in words [expressions] might not be the adequate ones. I want to make one thing clear: my intention is not to OFFEND anyone… and if I were to, my sincere apologies.

Original sin and pride are synonymous; sin can be found at the very root of the Protestant Reformation. Christ said: “I pray not only for them, but also for those who will BELIEVE IN ME THROUGH THEIR WORD [apostles and succesors], so that they ALL BE ONE, as you Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe you sent me”.

“Whoever listens to you [those commissioned by Christ] listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me”. Lk.10:16

Unfortunately, for everyone, they [Protestants] left the flock. I defer from the deacon as he obviously intend to say that protestants are still members of the family. I respectfully disagree with him. They have certain good qualities inherited from Catolithism, YES of course; but still members of the family, NO. I think Satan sowed the weeds that led to the Reformation.The same heretical teachings are still being taught by them.

Jesus came to establish God’s Kingdom on this Earth and made provisions for it when He established His Church. Anything that sways away from it can not come from God. Therefore, YES indeed, we need to pray for our Church and for the conversion of others.

Pax et bonum
–macaronte

 

[Mariamkutty]

East Antioch, the See of Seleucia-Ctesiphon in central Mesopotamia (Iraq today), was founded by Saint Thomas the Apostle, by tradition. This corresponds to the Chaldean Catholic Church, Syro-Malabar Catholic Church, and the Assyrian Church of the East.
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In trying to work out the connection between the Assyrian Church of the East and Chaldean Catholic Church it seems to me that the Chaldean Catholic Church might have been originally a part of Assyrian Church of the East, since they share the same Syriac Liturgy. The Syriac Liturgy of the ancient Christians of St Thomas on Malabar Coast (who came in full communion with RCC in 1599 at Synod of Diamper and became the Syro Malabar Catholic Church in 1887) was said to have been in Chaldean Syriac, their Patriarch was from Babylon and their bishop was sent by the Patriarch of Babylon until the death of the last one, Mar Abraham in 1597.

The new church formed in the nineteenth century in association with Church of England, which consecrated their first bishops, when those parts of the Middle East was under British control, is not part of the ancient tradition although they did borrow the Syriac Liturgy from Assyrian Church of the East and are in communion with both Church of England and Assyrian Church of the East, is not part of the ancient Apostle Thomas tradition. On Malabar Coast they were Latin Rite Catholics who wanted to split with Roman Catholic Church in the tradition of European Reformation, when British formed the colony India and British CMS missionaries worked with non-Catholics, Dutch Reformed, after Dutch lost power on Malabar Coast, and those Latin Rite Catholics who wanted to split with Rome.

 

[melekali]

On another thread, I remember seeing a list of all the Churches of the East and the West with the names of the Apostles who went to each region and founded the faith. The information to me is useful in all of us seeing each other more as brothers in the faith than debating over theological differences.

If anyone can provide me with such a list, I would be apprecative.

We are closer to being in full communion with our eastern orthrodox brothers than we are with our protestant brethen.

I pray that we come into full communion with each other in my lifetime. Once the east and west are united, i feel that the protestant denominations would see the unity and want to be a part of God’s Church on earth.

God bless

This may interest you.

 

[DV56]

No one knows who that may have been for sure.

Except to say he/she is very likely a saint now.

 

[macaronte]

Cursilista wrote:
“We are closer to being in full communion with our eastern orthrodox brothers than we are with our protestant brethen”.​

The Orthodox church have always been considered, by Rome, as a “sister church”.
Protestant churches are not considered sister churches.

Protestantism was born out of heretical teachings.
while
Orthodox churches have apostolic succesion and valid sacraments.

The Anglican Church:
Unfortunately, as they faded away from Rome and became more protestant… the Anglican Church lost her apostolic succesion.
Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Baptists, etc., have no apostolic roots whatsoever.

Pax et bonum
macaronte