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So I’m reading Introduction to the Devout Life (positively amazing)… and came across a reference that I cannot understand nor flesh out…
THE first purgation that must be made is that of mortal sin; the means to make it is the holy sacrament of penance. Seek, in the first place, the best confessor you can find; then procure some of those books which have been composed for assisting sinners to make a good confession; such as Granada, Bruno, Arias, or Auger; read them carefully, and remark, from point to point, in what you have offended from the time you came to the use of reason to the present hour.
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What Granada, Bruno, Arias, or Auger would he be speaking of?
 
I don’t really know, I’m afraid, but I’ll throw out one suggestion & maybe some others will be able to elaborate.

Seeing the name Bruno suggests Saint Bruno of Cologne, who founded the Carthusian Order. Perhaps St Francis de Sales was referring to the strict rule of the Carthusians - or perhaps there was a specific monastery which issued the book which St Francis mentions. I can only suggest that the other names - Granada, Arias and Auger - refer to other monasteries which were well known at the time which followed similar rules which St Francis admired…

Sorry I can’t shed any definite light on this. I hope someone else can - I’d love to know the right answer!
 
You have to rid yourself of all mortal sin by making a good confession to a good, holy priest. Buy and read those books to give yourself a good examination of conscience.

That’s what it says to me.👍
 
DihydrogenOxide said:
You have to rid yourself of all mortal sin by making a good confession to a good, holy priest. Buy and read those books to give yourself a good examination of conscience.

That’s what it says to me.👍
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That’s precisely what it does mean, but the question is, which books are these which he calls “Bruno”, “Granada”, “Arias” and “Auger”??!!😃
 
NPC said:
I don’t really know, I’m afraid, but I’ll throw out one suggestion & maybe some others will be able to elaborate.

Seeing the name Bruno suggests Saint Bruno of Cologne, who founded the Carthusian Order. Perhaps St Francis de Sales was referring to the strict rule of the Carthusians - or perhaps there was a specific monastery which issued the book which St Francis mentions. I can only suggest that the other names - Granada, Arias and Auger - refer to other monasteries which were well known at the time which followed similar rules which St Francis admired…

Sorry I can’t shed any definite light on this. I hope someone else can - I’d love to know the right answer!
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I’m going to continue digging… but thank you VERY much for pointing me in what sounds like the right direction.
 
DihydrogenOxide said:
You have to rid yourself of all mortal sin by making a good confession to a good, holy priest. Buy and read those books to give yourself a good examination of conscience.

That’s what it says to me.👍
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Your enthusiasm is much appreciated, however it seems you may have misunderstood me. In fact, I am trying to obtain those books. In order to do that, I’d need to find out which books, specifically, they are. That was my question. 😃
 
I would guess their works regarding examination of conscience, ne?

Doing a quick Amazon search, I figured it would include the following… (amazon has an author search, by the way, as do most book search engines.)

Bruno, St.: The Contemplative Life
de Granada, Louis: Pathways to Holiness

Arias and Auger are difficult to figure out. The above two, however should help in examination of conscience. The 2nd group of books, I can only assume, are out of print.
 
DihydrogenOxide said:
I would guess their works regarding examination of conscience, ne?

Doing a quick Amazon search, I figured it would include the following… (amazon has an author search, by the way, as do most book search engines.)

Bruno, St.: The Contemplative Life
de Granada, Louis: Pathways to Holiness

Arias and Auger are difficult to figure out. The above two, however should help in examination of conscience. The 2nd group of books, I can only assume, are out of print.
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You, my watery friend, are absolutely spectacular. Thank you. I performed a million searches on amazon, searched through the catholic encyclopedia… and could find nothing. Never did it occur to me to perform an author search. I cannot describe exactly how silly I feel right now, but that’s the problem with singular research… it’s hard to step outside of your train of thought sometimes, to see how simple the solution is.

I’m now trying to track down Arias and Auger… and after mass Father suggested I contact a librarian at a seminary library… which I will.
 
In my copy of Introduction (Image Books, translated by John K. Ryan), these are all footnoted. Here are the footnotes:

  1. *]Louis of Granada (1504-1588), a Spanish Dominican. His most famous work is Memorial of a Christian Life, Cf. Summa of the Christian Life: Selected texts from his writings translated and edited by Jordan Aumann (2 vols., St. Louis: B. Herder, 1954-55) and Obras de Fray Luis de Granada de la orden de santo Domingo. Edicion critica y completa por Fr. Justo Cuervo (14 vols. Madrid: 1906).
    *]Vincenzo Bruno (1532-1594), author of Trattato del sacramento della penitenza, con l’esame della confessione generale (Venice: 1585).
    *]Francisco Arias (1533-1605), a Spanish Jesuit, author of L’usance de la confession … translatée par un père de la mesme Société (Antwerp: 1601).
    *]Emond Auger (1530-1591), a French Jesuit, author of La Maniere d’ouyr la Messe … Item, un formulaire de bien confesser ses pechez (Tyons: 1571).

    I hope this helps.

    If what you are really looking for is a good detailed examination of conscience for a general confession, that is a different question. PM me and I may be able to help.
 
PhilotheaZ said:
In my copy of Introduction (Image Books, translated by John K. Ryan), these are all footnoted. Here are the footnotes:

  1. *]Louis of Granada (1504-1588), a Spanish Dominican. His most famous work is Memorial of a Christian Life, Cf. Summa of the Christian Life: Selected texts from his writings translated and edited by Jordan Aumann (2 vols., St. Louis: B. Herder, 1954-55) and Obras de Fray Luis de Granada de la orden de santo Domingo. Edicion critica y completa por Fr. Justo Cuervo (14 vols. Madrid: 1906).
    *]Vincenzo Bruno (1532-1594), author of Trattato del sacramento della penitenza, con l’esame della confessione generale (Venice: 1585).
    *]Francisco Arias (1533-1605), a Spanish Jesuit, author of L’usance de la confession … translatée par un père de la mesme Société (Antwerp: 1601).
    *]Emond Auger (1530-1591), a French Jesuit, author of La Maniere d’ouyr la Messe … Item, un formulaire de bien confesser ses pechez (Tyons: 1571).

    I hope this helps.

    If what you are really looking for is a good detailed examination of conscience for a general confession, that is a different question. PM me and I may be able to help.
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  1. Thank you so very much. Unfortunately it seems that the 400th Anniversary Edition from Eremitical Press (my copy of Devout Life) lacks footnotes…

    What I am working to do is build up my knowledge… so that I might be completely prepared for my first confession and that I might entirely dedicate myself to the faith.

    I’ll also be looking into books on examination of conscience… but I’m not so sure that these references will not help.
 
Hello. I found this post by Googling on “Grenada, Bruno, Arias, Augez” for the same reason as the first author of this thread. And I quite agree that *Introduction To The Devout Life *is a rare and amazing book. It reaches very deep inside of one and makes changes for the good.

When searching for these “little books” recommended by St. Francis de Sales for self-examination, I found *The Sinner’s Guide *by the Venerable Louis of Granada online here:

ewtn.com/library/SPIRIT/granada.htm

and can only think that this is the book he meant by mentioning Ven. Grenada. I’m stopping my search for now (without investigating the other three authors mentioned), because I think this one alone, along with Devout Life, will keep me busy for quite a while.
 
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