Little Madeleine McCann - does this cause scandal?

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I agree. It isn’t a good state of affairs. I guess my solution is to make sure that I am educated as to what the church teaches and then try to explain to others when they hear and question reports like this. I also want to give the benefit of the doubt, knowing that there are procedures a Catholic can use in good conscience. And also knowing that the media frequently uses short-hand when talking about things like in-vitro!
I don’t know the intricacies of the actual methods they used. That isn’t important to my question. The media reports it as ‘in-vitro’ - I don’t know what they mean by it either and I don’t think most hearers are going to go into thus much detail. That’s my point. The world hears ‘devout Catholic’ and ‘in-vitro’ and that’s all they hear.

Now, maybe other posters are right and most non-Catholics (and maybe even a good share of Catholics) don’t know what the Church teaches so my point is moot. But I don’t think so. I think, either way, that information gives an erroneous picture of the Church by giving the impression you can be both ‘devout’ as a Catholic and use IVF. At best it’s confusing and a disservice to the Church.

I’m not all that surprised, don’t get me wrong - it’s same old, same old…but nonetheless, it’s not good.
 
Are you SURE they were in a strip club? The news report I heard said “Tapas Bar” which is a type of Spanish appetizer. A “topless bar” would indeed be a whole different kettle of fish!
Yes, my understanding was that they were in a tapas bar, not a topless bar. Tapas bars are, I believe, very popular in Europe. Instead of ordering a huge meal, you snack on a number of different appetizers.
I think that a lot of people heard “tapas” as “topless”; at least there seem to be any number of people perpetuating the “topless” story.
In any case, since the important thing is Madeleine; not where her parents were, not how she was conceived, may we follow, please, Sr Sally’s suggestion, & give these parents the benefit of the doubt? Whilst we pray for Madeleine…
 
To avoid scandal, I suggest not watching television or reading [most] newspapers.

If, in fact, they were “devout Catholics”, they wouldn’t have used in vitro fertilization. I’m not coming down in judgment, I’m just agreeing with the Church on this issue, and assuming the word “devout” means they follow the precepts of the Church. Perhaps the word “devout” means, to the newspapers and television reporters, that the go to Mass every Sunday. These days, with religion so far out of people’s lives, simply going to church every Sunday probably is seen as being “devout”.
It is entirely possible that they became devout after having used in vitro fertilization.

Peace,
Dante
 
Are you SURE they were in a strip club? The news report I heard said “Tapas Bar” which is a type of Spanish appetizer. A “topless bar” would indeed be a whole different kettle of fish!
From what I heard on the news the place’s claim to fame was featuring live entertainment of that sort. Never been so I can’t really say for certain.
 
From what I heard on the news the place’s claim to fame was featuring live entertainment of that sort. Never been so I can’t really say for certain.
And this is how gossip gets started.The media is culpable for gossip and slander now. Go figure. The media has no idea what fact checking is anymore.

Kim
 
in response to the question posed in OP, does the fact that a couple conceived children through in vitro fertilization cause scandal when they are self-identified, or identified in the media as “devout Catholics.” The answer should inevitably be NO for this reason: Christian charity demands that we regard all our fellow Catholics as devout, as we are obliged to assume, in the fullness of that charity, that they are freshly confessed and communicated and hence in a state of sanctifying grace. In this matter, common etiquette (i.e. Miss Manners) dovetails beautifully with Christian charity: we never, ever speculate, inquire, or make assumptions about how babies and children have come to be, because such speculations have no place in polite society,

That any intelligent human being would be scandalized about the behavior of any person as reported in the media is preposterous, as the media could not get the facts right if they tried with both hands for a week.

Another illustration of “what I heard is not what you said” just happened here last week. A homeowner, watching a group of children who are here in the park participating in a summer activity program, commented “Oh, look at all the rugrats” (popular slang, deriving from a TV cartoon, referring to small children). Someone overheard, and repeated to others that he had cast a racial slur concerning the children, who of course are mostly of Mexican extraction. This person heard “Look at all the wetbacks” and within an hour several protests were lodged with management against all the homeowners for racial bigotry. The story got back to the man who made the original comment, who hastened to the office with an explanation, but by then the damage was done, and in less than a day we have hostility between the homeowners, mostly Anglo, and other users of the facility from the community, mostly Hispanic.
 
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