Little Office of the BVM

[PopePiusXIISupp]

I was wondering if the traditional version of the Little Office (Lauds and Vesper) could be said to meet the requirements for the sabbatine privilege.

 

[dmar198]

I was wondering if the traditional version of the Little Office (Lauds and Vesper) could be said to meet the requirements for the sabbatine privilege.

According to this website: udayton.edu/imri/mary/s/sabbatine-privilege.php the requirements simply state that you should “Recite daily the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary” (along with a couple other requirements). For this information, they cite a document called the Bull of the Holy Office, 1613.

It seems to me that the Little Office in the traditional version is still the Little Office. On the basis of that assumption, I reply Yes to your question. (Well, technically you did not phrase it as a question, but meh.) I am not, however, an authority on this subject, though I doubt you will find anyone on this forum who is. I hope that helps.

 

[Della]

What I have to relate here will not be welcome news to all, however, it is what the Vatican and Carmelite Order have to say about this issue, quoted here:

What is the official status of the Sabbatine Privilege?

Historical research has shown that the alleged fourteenth-century appearance of the Blessed Mother to Pope John XXII is without historical foundation. As a matter of fact, in the year 1613 the Holy See determined that the decree establishing the “Sabbatine Privilege” was unfounded and the Church admonished the Carmelite Order not to preach this doctrine. Unfortunately, the Order did not always comply with this directive of the Holy See.

At the time the Carmelites were instructed to stop mentioning the “Sabbatine Privilege” the Holy See acknowledged that the faithful may devoutly believe that the Blessed Virgin Mary by her continuous intercession, merciful prayers, merits, and special protection will assist the souls of deceased brothers and sisters and members of the confraternity, especially on Saturday, the day which the church dedicates to the Blessed Virgin.

Consistent with the Catholic tradition, such favors associated with the wearing of the Brown Scapular would be meaningless without the wearers living and dying in the state of grace, observing chastity according to their state in life, and living a life of prayer and penitence. The promises traditionally tied to the scapular offer us what the Second Vatican Council says about the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary: “By her maternal love, Mary cares for the brothers and sisters of her Son, who still make their earthly journey surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led to their happy fatherland.”

This quote is taken from here: meditationsfromcarmel.com/content/scapular-catechesis. The Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary may be prayed, of course, but the Liturgy of the Hours is now preferred for Carmelites, lay and religious. The claim that Mary releases souls from purgatory has never been Church teaching and still isn’t. As stated above, she prays for the souls in purgatory from which souls certainly benefit, but she doesn’t release souls from purgatory–that is for God alone to determine. Websites that claim that the Sabbatine Privilege is in force are simply wrong and should not be used as guides in this matter.

Again, I am not denying Mary’s aid to souls in purgatory–of course she aids them in every way open to her. That’s not the issue here, rather the issue is the invalidity of the Sabbatine Privilege. Although this might not be what some wish to accept, it is the Church’s judgment regarding the Sabbatine Privilege.

I will not debate this with anyone. I offer my comments merely for the sake of truth and clarity regarding this issue.

 

[Nelka]

My priest said I could pray the Rosary each day instead.