Litugrgical Dancers

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dprewett said:
My best moves are to Lord of the Dance Played on Bongos with a Tamberine accompanyment. I believe that people would pay to see that.😃
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I love when prople stand on top of the organ and jive and do some break dancing on the altar. The people in the pew just go nuts and start standing on their seats and it is amazing. Then when we are all finished we just clap and clap and clap. :rolleyes: We are just so happy about ourselves.

A few minutes later the unbloody sacrifice is done. :hmmm:
 
SacredHeartFan said:
Should liturgical dancers be in the liturgy? I personally don’t like them. No offense to anyone. I see the younger childeren point and stare at them and not pay attention to the mass. Any opinions?
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We don’t really need opinions on this. Talk to Cardinal Arinze. Check Redemptionis Sacramentum.

This is a closed case. Thank the Lord.
 
benedictgal said:
I have posted this on other dance-related threads, but, it certainly bears repeating. This comes from Francis Carindal Arinze, the Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments and it is his answer to a question presented to him on the same subject:

Now, I don’t think that the former Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger left the door open to dance. The issue is that “dance” is not part of the Latin Church’s form of worship. Inculturation into certain missionary teritories where dance is part of the cultic worship of the native groups is something to consider; however, what was displayed in Los Angeles certainly does not fit the category.
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You go, Girl! I’ll bet your name is “Scorched grits” in the liturgical dance world!
 
mercygate said:
You go, Girl! I’ll bet your name is “Scorched grits” in the liturgical dance world!
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Actually, it is. We came up with this very problem for the annual Catholic Schools Week. One of the Catholic schools, operated by the Salesian Sisters (and this is the unkindest cut of all because I graduated from this school) was bent on dancing this year. After the annual arguments, I sent the necessary documents to the superintendent and she killed it. Needless to say, I’m not quite one of the shining alumnae from the school, but, as I told one of the nuns, “You taught us to be faithful to the Church. This was always Don Bosco’s main thrust. Had he walked into one of your liturgies, he would not be at all pleased.” She couldn’t say anything. It’s kind of sad when you have to use your own Spiritual Father’s words to correct the community that educated you.🤷
 
dprewett said:
My best moves are to Lord of the Dance Played on Bongos with a Tamberine accompanyment. I believe that people would pay to see that.😃
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I really get down when there are bongos, tambourine, native american flute, and electric guitar. Maybe even a saxophone. A sitar would be great too. Of course, each player gets to do a solo and then everyone applauds for them (“on native american flute, we have Skye, who learned to play in Berkeley in the '60’s, you go girl!” then Skye plays a riff, etc.) We all have so much fun and love the music so much sometimes we even forget about the boring old readings and the bread and wine.
 
I grew up with hippie parents dancing around a camp fire. I did not become a catholic to relive my childhood. Easy ridder may have been cool but living it was not.:eek:
 
VociMike said:
You know, I’ve wondered about that also. If a choir-only Mass with no singing by the people is bad, how come liturgical dancing only by the dancers is OK? Why aren’t the people allowed their rightful part in the dancing? Not to mention the priest! It is so not Vatican II! 😃
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Oh, and they know it. Liturgical Dancers really enjoy when someone comes up to them unprompted and praises God with 70’s Disco moves.

It shows the entire congregation how really hip and Vatican II inclusive they are.

Try it sometime 😃
 
The singer look like she’s about to launch into some Dirty Dancing moves with that thigh high split skirt. Risque!

“O Patrick where art thou?”

“Nobody puts Baby in a corner!” 😛
 
And is it any wonder that the average Catholic is confused over issues such as this when we see Cardinal Mahoney sitting in the middle of this stuff? When people see a Cardinal or Bishop presiding over these things, they assume it must be approved by the Church.
 
Yes - JPII was thought to have approved this kinda stuff.

Here is what Cardinal Arinze said about it…

“Why make the people of God suffer so much? Haven’t we enough problems already? Only Sunday, one hour, they come to adore God. And you bring a dance! Are you so poor you have nothing else to bring us? Shame on you! That’s how I feel about it.
Somebody can say, “but the pope visited this county and the people danced”. A moment: Did the pope arrange it? Poor Holy Father – he comes, the people arranged. He does not know what they arranged. And somebody introduces something funny – is the pope responsible for that? Does that mean it is now approved? Did they put in on the table of the Congregation for Divine Worship? We would throw it out! If people want to dance, they know where to go.”
 
Oh my… oh my… I don’t even have words to utter…

That’s so surreal.
 
Buffalo,

This clip was removed from the forum quite some time ago when another person posted it. It is not dated, probably not current, and nothing identifies its authenticity. I noted that it was another culture, as well, which may have its own liturgical permissions. Why would you show this again to stir the pot, when in all likelihood, this is ancient history?
 
Here is what Cardinal Arinze has to say about liturgical dance, as published in Adoremus Bulletin in October, 2003:

Has liturgical dance been approved for Masses by your office?

There has never been a document from our Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments saying that dance is approved in the Mass.

The question of dance is difficult and delicate. However, it is good to know that the tradition of the Latin Church has not known the dance. It is something that people are introducing in the last ten years – or twenty years. It was not always so. Now it is spreading like wildfire, one can say, in all the continents – some more than others. In my own continent, Africa, it is spreading. In Asia, it is spreading.

Now, some priests and lay people think that Mass is never complete without dance. The difficulty is this: we come to Mass primarily to adore God – what we call the vertical dimension. We do not come to Mass to entertain one another. That’s not the purpose of Mass. The parish hall is for that.

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If they are going to do it, might I suggest this. Lovely waltz just like Fred and Ginger did in the day !!!
 
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