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Yesterday I had a discussion with a priest and he told me that the Holy Father does not follow the Liturgy of the Mass because he allows Liturgical Dancing. He then said that if the Pope can make changes to the Mass so can he.

I thought that different cultures are allowed to celebrate the Liturgy of the Mass based on the teachings of the Bishops of each country. Does anyone know if Liturgical Dancing during Mass is not allowed? I can not find anything in the General Instruction of the Roman Missal.
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DaddyO:
Yesterday I had a discussion with a priest and he told me that the Holy Father does not follow the Liturgy of the Mass because he allows Liturgical Dancing. He then said that if the Pope can make changes to the Mass so can he.

I thought that different cultures are allowed to celebrate the Liturgy of the Mass based on the teachings of the Bishops of each country. Does anyone know if Liturgical Dancing during Mass is not allowed? I can not find anything in the General Instruction of the Roman Missal.
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First, in the United States (and most 1st world countries) liturgical dance is prohibited because it is seen as profane rather than sacred. In other countries, however, it is permitted because dance is a sacred function rather than a secular function. This is not in the GIRM but, rather, in a letter of clarification from the Congregation for Sacraments and Worship.

The fallacy in your pastor’s argument is that the regulation of the Litrurgy belongs to the pope, not to the priest or bishop (or even the deacon).

Deacon Ed
 
could somebody please post the link with video where I can see the pope dancing?
 
If the Pope can make changes so can he?

Is this a priest, or a kid on a playground?

What an utterly juvenile attempt to justify a wrong–first, by attempting to impugn (assign an unworthy motive to) the Holy Father, and second, arrogantly grabbing for the reins of power himself.

I will pray for this very misguided priest.
 
Liturgical dance is nothing more than a practice instituted by feminist “Sophia-Worshipers” and “Wicca-Witches”. So- called Liturgical Dance has never been a part of Christian adoration and worship of God except by Protestant fringe groups such as the Shakers. Emphasis on "Mass Dancers” and not on the “male priestly sacrifice” of the unbloody victim furthers the homosexual, feminist and pagan agenda.

http://www.mosaicinfo.org/images/faithcommunities/inforequest.jpg
 
I don’t think I’ll go that far Fast_ed.I think some people like it because they think it’s cute and it puts theirs daughters’ ballet classes to “good” use.

However, the previous post is correct in that it is not allowed in the U.S. because it is not a traditional form of worship in our culture.

We have “hula” Masses at my church sometimes. [Don’t freak out; it’s modest and respectful.] This seems ok to me since we have Hawaiian people in our parish, dance in Hawaiian culture IS a part of worship and now it’s used to worship God. Fine.

But we also had liturgical dancers a few times very similar to the picture posted. Little girls in white flowing dresses with make-up and their hair all curled with flowers and huge recital smiles on their faces. They glided up the nave and all around the altar placing the altar linens. This was done as part of a parish anniversary celebration Mass, presided by the Auxiliary Bishop (Los Angeles archdiocese)! He loved it and said so.

I don’t fault the girls. I’m sure their hearts were in the right place and they thought they were doing something good. But is was very distracting to everyone. I doubt anyone was thinking about worshiping God while watching this novel spectacle.
 
Funny, it’s not allowed yet I see a few local parishes having such services. All in the spirit of Vatican II usually they say usually without a clue.

I’m against it, btw.
 
Yeah, something’s wrong with most of the “Cathlic Communities” in terms of trying to be at all cost anything but traditional.

There’s another one in Leesburg, Catholic Community of St. Paul that almost takes the cake at the above claim. Children’s liturgy of the world, preacher walking all over the church during the homily (he can’t stand in one place!), a past priest registering 10 domain names to try to block the spread of a lay traditional group’s growth , etc. I never went there, but they broadcast every Sunday and that is why I know about them.
 
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darcee:
I am no way a fan of liturgical dance… but what you are showing is NOT a picture of a liturgical dancer at a Catholic Mass. It is a disabled girl worshiping at and Evangelical Lutheran Prayer meeting.

click here to see the image in context.
mosaicinfo.org/faithcommunities/request.htm

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Hmmm… Seems we have a bit of dishonesty afoot in support of our position…
Thanks for catching that, darcee! :whistle:

Sorry, Fast ed, you lose points! :tsktsk:
 
Wait a minute; I think I have heard of Polka Masses! Does that count?
 
We had a seminarian from Africa, Ordained in our diocese. Although there was no dancing on the altar, his countrymen and women who came for the Ordination were allowed to dance next to the pews in their colorful costumes. In their country this is part of their Catholic Tradition. Traditional music was also played. This did not ruin the beautiful liturgy. They only danced at one point in the liturgy to thank God and celebrate their brother becoming a priest.

Deacon Tony SFO
 
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DaddyO:
Yesterday I had a discussion with a priest and he told me that the Holy Father does not follow the Liturgy of the Mass because he allows Liturgical Dancing. He then said that if the Pope can make changes to the Mass so can he.

The man in charge of the papal liturgies is Bp Piero Marini (you always see him next to the pope during liturgies); his take on it is that since St. Peter’s is hosting Catholics from every culture and expression when it is part of their liturgy at home, they are allowed to do so at liturgies held in Rome as a visual symbol of the church as “universal” .

Critics of Bp Marini (of which there ar many, particularly in the Italian press and the curia) have criticized him on a regular and continuing basis for doing so. They complain, he persists.

And your priest is 100% wrong. He has no authority to change the liturgy when and how it is not allowed. The Vatican has said over and over again.
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I personally don’t like Liturgal Dance when they put them in the Mass. Like at Christmas eve Mass, two years ago {was not mass last year was sick with 104F temp], they had a little girl dance all around, i think after communion, and just today at Mass the Childern’s choir sang today and during the last song some the kids lined up outside the sacurty (sp) so they could dance in place and do hand signals.:confused::o
 
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