Liturgical calendar for Aug 22 question

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In the USA, today, Aug 22, is the memorial of the Queenship of Mary. I wanted to attend Mass today, but due to this being not a great day at work, I ended up going to the latest daily Mass I can get to, which is a Spanish language Mass in the evening at a parish run by the Franciscans of Mary. The priest came out in red vestments and, while my Spanish is not good, he mentioned St. John the Baptist (San Juan Bautista) several times. The church is not named after St. John the Baptist or anything like that. This also is not a traditionalist parish and is not following the Tridentine calendar.

I also don’t think the readings for the day, which of course were in Spanish as usual, were either the normal day’s readings or the Memorial of Queenship of Mary readings as shown on the USCCB website. The first reading started out “Hermanos” which generally means it’s a letter of Paul or other apostle.

Is there some feast of St. John the Baptist on this day somewhere else in the world where they speak Spanish? The Franciscan calendars I can find either have this day assigned to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, or it’s left blank. I realize Mary is happy that I attended Mass regardless of whether it was a Queenship of Mary Mass or not, but I’d really like to know what I just attended. This is also the second or third time something like this happened where I showed up expecting to hear the Mass, or one of the Masses, listed on USCCB calendar and instead they were celebrating something else.
 
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I’m taking a stab in the dark here…

According to my EF calendar the 22nd is also the Commemoration of St. Timothy and Companions Martyrs (Sts. Timothy, Hippolytus & Symphorian). Perhaps this explains the red vestments? Sorry but can’t explain the reason for mentioning St. John the Baptist.

ETA - out of curiosity and in trying to be helpful, I did a google translate (not always reliable I know, but I don’t know any spanish), and it translated the word “Hermanos” as being “Brothers”. So if this is right, then perhaps it was used at the start of the first reading as a way of addressing the people?

Sorry I am not of any real help to you.
 
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Thanks, but as I said this is not a traditionalist church (those are the ones that might follow the old calendar and celebrate a historic martyrs’ feast) and there were no mentions of the name of those martyrs. Names or the spanish version thereof usually pop out at me when I attend these Masses.

“Hermanos” is typically the beginning of one of Paul’s letters. In English they start “Brothers and Sisters”. The reader does not typically say “Hermanos” if it is not in the Scripture. I go to this church several times a month for the last couple years, also to another Spanish parish from time to time.

This happened to me once before when I went there expecting the normal Mass or memorial for the day and found them celebrating a different saint. I just assumed they were following a calendar either of another country or of their order. I also know sometimes priests celebrate Mass of the Holy Spirit and wear red vestments as there is an English speaking priest at a different parish who likes to do that, but that doesn’t explain the mentions of John the Baptist during the collect and closing prayers.
 
Perhaps Father read the calendar wrong, and was celebrating next Thursday’s 2019-08-29T04:00:00Z Memorial of the Passion of John the Baptist? 🤷‍♂️
 
I actually wondered about that, whether he read the wrong day. Seems like a pretty major mistake if so.

Edited to add, I am not concerned if he did make a mistake - it is just an observation and I will not be writing to the bishop.
Also, as to why I did not talk to the priest about it:
  1. I assumed while at the Mass that it was likely a different liturgical calendar they use, as this has occurred before, and only discovered when I got home that I couldn’t find it on any calendars. Which like I said does not mean the priest couldn’t have been celebrating some other Mass he is permitted to celebrate.
  2. It was 9 pm by the time everything was finished up and I was more concerned with getting home as it’s a bit of a drive and I have work today.
  3. This is not my parish and as I do not speak the language and am happy enough to have a late Mass on weekdays, I am not about to hassle the priest. I don’t hassle priests anyway and have asked exactly one question of a priest at my own parish about liturgical practice in the last 10 years.
Hopefully that will forestall any more posts like the one I just got, which was not constructive.

I was actually hoping someone from Mexico, Spain, the Franciscans of Mary might have an answer, but if that is not the case I will just leave it a “mystery” and like I said be happy I had a Mass and Adoration to attend as yesterday was not great.
 
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My priest was a week off too but it was still in the sacristy when he started talking about the celebrations of the Blessed Virgin Mary assumed into heaven. I don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have Ordo to guide me, all other sacristans and all the clergy. During the past two weeks there have been to many options. And then if the readings are the alternatives for the saints or martyrs… And of course changed 3 minutes before Mass is supposed to start.
 
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We were not there, so how are we supposed to answer the question. If it bothered you so much why did you not ask the priest?
They are human and do make mistakes too. ya know. Have a little charity.
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There is nothing “uncharitable” in what I said. I am just curious because I thought the church might use a different calendar and that someone, perhaps from another country, would know.

Kindly give people the benefit of the doubt, show some charity yourself. My posting history shows that I am not in the habit of running around on here acting like the liturgy police, plus this is not my parish and I am happy enough to have a Mass to attend in the evening, with Adoration afterwards even so I don’t have to to drive another 15 miles for that, without making a nuisance of myself.
 
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It is within the realms of possibility that the priest celebrated a Votive Mass of John the Baptist. There would have needed to be a strong pastoral reason for doing so, but perhaps the other members of the congregation had a particular devotion to the saint. Votive Masses are not allowed in place of a memorial Mass of the Blessed Virgin where this relates to an incident in her life. However, the Queenship of Mary does not relate to an incident in her life and, dislike it though we may, it is an optional memorial. (Or he just got the date wrong)
 
Maybe he was making an announcement for next week’s Beheading of St. John the Baptist.
 
Our priest always announces what holy days are coming up at the beginning of his homily.
 
This priest might announce them at announcement time. He speaks in rapid Spanish which I am not able to totally follow. I can understand a few words such as the names of God, Jesus, Mary, a number of saint names, and certain words like “brothers” and “bless” and the familiar Catholic prayers, but can’t follow impromptu speeches.
 
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