Liturgical Music

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Various people have set music to the parts of the mass. They are supposed to use the same text, although some take liberties with adding/changing the text. Ideally, there shouldn’t be any difference with the text for any setting of the mass. The only difference would be the actual music. I don’t know the reasons behind why Haugen, Alstott or any other composer chose the titles of their mass settings.

I can’t say as there are many people out there who set the mass text to their music. Depending on where you are, certain mass settings are more popular than others. It seems that the Mass of Creation tends to be the most known amongst American Catholics for some reason, even though most people I work with and have sung for actually don’t think much of the setting. I would say in the area where I freelance the Heritage Mass comes second, then Proulx’s “Community Mass” and the Danish Mass.
The Danish Mass is nice. But Protestants use the music, so I imagine that many Catholics would not like it for this reason, just like they don’t like Haugen music for that reason. Oh, well.
 
We are actually currently using St. Louis Jesuits’ Mass right now at my parish. The added language in the Great Amen really irks me.
Yes… I just don’t understand why some writers/composers have to do that. Whenever I have to cantor that, I just feel really uncomfortable and wrong. But I can’t do anything about it. I brought up the issue of the Great Amen once to the director just sort of in passing after he mentioned that it was a nice mass and that the congregation liked it. His stance was that if the pastor doesn’t mind it and is not going to say anything, he was going to keep it in. 🤷
OCP’s missals don’t really offer much in regards to Mass settings. The only one that I like out of any of them is Heritage Mass.
Yes, I agree. Where I normally work, we don’t use OCP, but I do when I freelance and know all too well what you have to deal with in terms of music selections.
 
The Danish Mass is nice. But Protestants use the music, so I imagine that many Catholics would not like it for this reason, just like they don’t like Haugen music for that reason. Oh, well.
Perhaps on here for some people, but as you and I well know, in real life most Catholics either don’t know or don’t care. :o

Funny thing is I work with Episcopal/Anglican music directors/organists sometimes and they will often use music written for the Catholic mass - motets, mass settings, etc. For me, and I know for most of my colleagues in real life, it is about the quality of the composition itself and if the text is appropriate. It’s much less about if it is used in Protestant services or written by a Protestant.
 
This link shows how we sing the songs at our Church on Sundays.

youtube.com/watch?v=EAOmVGdc7c8

The description given by the uploader of the song is not something I condone, I just wanted to show you the music.
I know I’m biased, but is there anything more beautiful?

I especially like the part in the Gloria that says “Jesu Christe” and everyone bows their heads reverently.

:signofcross:
 
what’s the difference between the Heritage mass and the Mass of Creation? Where did all these different ones originate?
The Heritage Mass setting was written by Owen Alstott, and Mass of Creation was written by Marty Haugen.

The different settings have different musical scores; they should NOT have different/added words; however, a lot of composers love to take liberties with the texts provided by the Holy See.
 
How often do parishes rotate mass settings and are there many mass settings to choose from?
 
How often do parishes rotate mass settings and are there many mass settings to choose from?
Some parishes keep the same setting for years and others change them with the liturgical season: one setting for Advent, one for the Christmas season, one for Lent, one for the Easter Season and one for Ordinary Time.
 
Some parishes keep the same setting for years and others change them with the liturgical season: one setting for Advent, one for the Christmas season, one for Lent, one for the Easter Season and one for Ordinary Time.
Ah. I see. Any mixed language mass settings? By this I mean a setting that has some songs in English and some in Latin, for example.
 
Another one that I don’t really care for is Dan Schutte’s Mass of God’s Promise. The Sanctus and Memorial Acclamations have nothing wrong with them, but Dan took a few liberties with the Gloria, Lenten Gospel Acclamation, Great Amen, and Lamb of God.
 
I know I’m biased, but is there anything more beautiful?

I especially like the part in the Gloria that says “Jesu Christe” and everyone bows their heads reverently.

:signofcross:
Gregorian Chant, in my opinion, is more beautiful. But I created this poll to find which they prefer besides Gregorian Chant (because I knew that if I put Gregorian Chant vs. the Mass of Glory vs. the Mass of Creation, Gregorian Chant would win hands down).
 
How often do parishes rotate mass settings and are there many mass settings to choose from?
I know that my music director likes to switch Mass settings every time the liturgical seasons change.
 
I thought I replied to this but I can’t find the post, so excuse me if I post this twice:
The mass of Glory reminds me of Gospel or Contemporary Gospel. I like this type of music sometimes and have sung this type of music before, but I don’t like it for mass. Not worth commenting upon.
It had promise at first but got quickly boring.
Uh Uh. Not for Santus! It does not capture the spirit of worship at all! Boring.
I like this 🙂
Kind of a nice, humble, repentant feel to it.
 
I voted neither because I also prefer Greagorian chant at Mass. I had no clue what Mass of Glory or Mass of Creation were until I had heard them. I do prefer Creation over Glory though. Our parish uses Creation and I thought that sounded “protestant”. The Mass of Glory sounds a lot worse to me though. When will we ever have Catholic sounding music in a Catholic church? 🤷
 
Gregorian Chant, in my opinion, is more beautiful. But I created this poll to find which they prefer besides Gregorian Chant (because I knew that if I put Gregorian Chant vs. the Mass of Glory vs. the Mass of Creation, Gregorian Chant would win hands down).
Well yes. 😃

Then again, not everyone likes Gregorian Chant.
 
I voted neither because I also prefer Greagorian chant at Mass. I had no clue what Mass of Glory or Mass of Creation were until I had heard them. I do prefer Creation over Glory though. Our parish uses Creation and I thought that sounded “protestant”. The Mass of Glory sounds a lot worse to me though. When will we ever have Catholic sounding music in a Catholic church? 🤷
I thought you attended the EF for some reason.
 
Gregorian Chant, in my opinion, is more beautiful. But I created this poll to find which they prefer besides Gregorian Chant (because I knew that if I put Gregorian Chant vs. the Mass of Glory vs. the Mass of Creation, Gregorian Chant would win hands down).
Do you know the names of the other mass settings in Latin? What else is there besides Missa de Angelis?
 
Ah. I see. Any mixed language mass settings? By this I mean a setting that has some songs in English and some in Latin, for example.
The Heritage Mass uses both English and Latin. It’s usually done when there is a choir.
 
I know I’m biased, but is there anything more beautiful?

I especially like the part in the Gloria that says “Jesu Christe” and everyone bows their heads reverently.

:signofcross:
I agree, so beautiful. It calms me and places me in a meditative, other-worldly state whenever I chant or hear it.
 
How often do parishes rotate mass settings and are there many mass settings to choose from?
Depends on the parish. At one parish I attended from the time I was a baby, the only setting they ever did was the Danish Mass. I think they did that mass since it first came out.

Where I work now, the director, depending on his mood, will have one or two mass settings for ordinary time. So for a couple months, he might do the Community Mass, then the next time it is ordinary time, he’ll change it to something else. Christmas will be another mass. Advent and Lent will be another mass and Easter, yet another.
 
The Heritage Mass uses both English and Latin. It’s usually done when there is a choir.
Ooh I just listened to the Heritage Mass. It’s not bad at all.

The Sanctus starts just like Holy, Holy Holy by Reginald Heber, ha ha.

But I absolutely LOVE “Lamb of God.”

I think I will include it in my personal devotions. Honestly, I think it is as beautiful as the Divine Mercy chant.
 
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