Liturgy Of St. James

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dvdjs said:
Joint Christological statements have been published by joint theological commissions of the OO and EO churches (and the OO and Catholic churches). But much remains to be worked out on the path to formal inter-communion - not the least of which is what to do about the findings and anathemas of Ecumenical Councils, which led, “back then” to the breaking of communion over differences of faith - and the ones since then.
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Indeed. Politics is such a killer. It’s really quite sad.
 
I’m curious about this statistic that most middle-eastern Christians are Catholic. Source?
 
nine_two said:
i’m curious about this statistic that most middle-eastern christians are catholic. Source?
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CNEWA. I did the math with their numbers comparing EC and EO some years ago. I focused on territory of the Jerusalem and Antiochian Sees (Middle East may be more inclusive) and found EC:EO ~3:2, to my surprise. (I wonder what the numbers are in Turkey.) I don’t recall looking at OO, CoE, etc., so I should have phrased my comment more carefully. With continuing immigration of Middle Eastern Christians out and Russians (some of whom may be Orthodox Christians) in, the ratio may be changing.

In Alexandrian territory, the OO’s far outnumber EO’s and EC’s which are about equal in number.
 
dvdjs said:
CNEWA. I did the math with their numbers comparing EC and EO some years ago. I focused on territory of the Jerusalem and Antiochian Sees (Middle East may be more inclusive) and found EC:EO ~3:2, to my surprise. (I wonder what the numbers are in Turkey.) I don’t recall looking at OO, CoE, etc., so I should have phrased my comment more carefully. With continuing immigration of Middle Eastern Christians out and Russians (some of whom may be Orthodox Christians) in, the ratio may be changing.

In Alexandrian territory, the OO’s far outnumber EO’s and EC’s which are about equal in number.
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I’m not all that surprised (and I do believe you), the Maronites must form quite a sizable portion of Christians in general in the middle-East, I’m just curious about the source. If you did the math where did you get the numbers, etc?

Also you should be careful using the term “Alexandrian Territory”, the territory of the Coptic Pope has different borders than the Orthodox Pope. Not sure about the Eastern Copts, though your point is undeniable - in Egypt Copts are the big Christian group.

edit: I just noticed you did give a source for your numbers, so forget about that request. 🙂
 
Nine_Two said:
I’m not all that surprised (and I do believe you), the Maronites must form quite a sizable portion of Christians in general in the middle-East, I’m just curious about the source. If you did the math where did you get the numbers, etc?

Also you should be careful using the term “Alexandrian Territory”, the territory of the Coptic Pope has different borders than the Orthodox Pope. Not sure about the Eastern Copts, though your point is undeniable - in Egypt Copts are the big Christian group.
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You are right about the Maronites being a big factor. I did a quick take on the latest numbers, looking at EC’s in Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, plus Iraq, and the entire estimates for CoE, Syriac OO (excluding India), and Antiochian P and Jerusalem P EOs"

COE 400 (thousands)
SO 500
EO 880

Maronite 1,177
Chladean 56 + 243 in Iraq
Melkite 730
Syrian 84 + 53 in Iraq​

EC ~ 2,400
others ~ 1,800
 
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