Liturgy of the Hours in other rites?

[JMJ_coder]

There are eight major rites in the Catholic Church (e.g., Latin, Byzantine, Maronite, etc.). Attending Liturgy at a Catholic Church of any rite fulfills requirements for Sunday and Holy Day attendance.

What about the Liturgy of the Hours? Where can one find information on the form the Divine Office takes in other rites and does participation in any of them fulfill requirements (say for a clerics obligation to say the Office everyday).

More importantly, can any validly pray the Office from any other rite, or does one need special permission like is needed for being a bi-ritual Priest? (yes, I know no Sacrament is present, but it is still a Liturgy)

For example, where could one find information on the Office for Coptic Catholics and could a Latin rite Catholic (or a group of them - publicly? privately?) say that Office? (in lieu of the Latin rite Office? fulfill any/all requirements to say the Office?)

 

[shawnbm]

I find this question perplexing. How could the Church dictate the manner in which one engages in private devotion, even if using a formalized prayer method from a non-Latin rite? This seems overly legalistic to my ears. Dictating how liturgy (public worship) is performed on pronouncements on the creeds, the faith or morals is one thing, but telling you you can’t use a prayer form from another church in communion with the See of Peter seems a bit much. Frankly, if you were a former Anglican and enjoyed the Book of Common Prayer’s private prayers, I don’t think Rome could tell you not to use them if they assist you in your spiritual life and the prayers are properly based in sound theology.

 

[bpbasilphx]

\ (yes, I know no Sacrament is present, but it is still a Liturgy)\

**Actually, no, it is not. In Eastern diction “Liturgy” specifically means the Eucharistic Sacrifice.

The Divine Office exists in all the pre-reformation Churches.

There are various translations of the Byzantine form on line. The best place to start would be

anastasis.org.uk

This will also give a lot of the propers.

The Coptic Office–called the Agpeya–is available in English on line. It is STRICTLY connected with the time of day, and does not change from one day to the next.

The Syriac Orthodox Shehimto (used also by Syriac Catholics) is available, in part, on line.

The Assyrian/Chaldean Catholic office book can be ordered from Fr. Andrew Youhan at

kaldu.org

I don’t know if the Armenian, Maronite, or Ethiopic office is found on line.**

 

[malphono]

I don’t know if the Armenian, Maronite, or Ethiopic office is found on line.

A version of the Maronite office (three volumes) can be ordered from the Eparchial website under the title “Prayer of the Faithful.”

 

[Evan]

I find this question perplexing. How could the Church dictate the manner in which one engages in private devotion, even if using a formalized prayer method from a non-Latin rite? This seems overly legalistic to my ears. Dictating how liturgy (public worship) is performed on pronouncements on the creeds, the faith or morals is one thing, but telling you you can’t use a prayer form from another church in communion with the See of Peter seems a bit much. Frankly, if you were a former Anglican and enjoyed the Book of Common Prayer’s private prayers, I don’t think Rome could tell you not to use them if they assist you in your spiritual life and the prayers are properly based in sound theology.

The Liturgy of the Hours is not a private devotion. It is a public prayer, a public work of the the Church. It has been said under various forms for over 3000 years, since the time of David. That is why there is a right way, and wrong way to do it. Now if you are not required to do it, I suppose you could participate as a private devotion, like going to daily mass as a private devotion, but I would consider participation in Mass or LOTH as a public work (Liturgy).

The stations of the cross and the rosary are private devotions and there are a lot of ways to do them, none right and none wrong, just different ways. The LOTHs has rubrics with many options, but there can be abuses and they are corrected (hopefully) by the superiors in your order.

 

[5Loaves]

There are eight major rites in the Catholic Church (e.g., Latin, Byzantine, Maronite, etc.). Attending Liturgy at a Catholic Church of any rite fulfills requirements for Sunday and Holy Day attendance.

There is the Roman Rite of the Latin Church, and there are Byzantine (aka Greek in the past) and Oriental Catholic Churches, not rites, the Maronite Church etc. See this post for more re: rites.

 

[bpbasilphx]

\There is the Roman Rite of the Latin Church,\

**Actually, the Roman Rite is NOT the only rite practiced in the Latin Church.

Ambrosian and Mozarabic rites have their own orders not only for Mass, but the Divine Office as well. The classical Ambrosian rite, unlike the others, did not recite the entire Psalter in a week.

The Benedictine Office had several differences from the Roman Office, even before Pius XI, especially in the arrangement of the Psalter.

And then there are the various uses of the Roman Office by Carmelites, Dominicans, and others.**

 

[JMJ_coder]

There is the Roman Rite of the Latin Church, and there are Byzantine (aka Greek in the past) and Oriental Catholic Churches, not rites, the Maronite Church etc. See this post for more re: rites.

I was specifically referring to the rites, not the Churches (for obvious reasons).

 

[JMJ_coder]

I find this question perplexing. How could the Church dictate the manner in which one engages in private devotion, even if using a formalized prayer method from a non-Latin rite? This seems overly legalistic to my ears. Dictating how liturgy (public worship) is performed on pronouncements on the creeds, the faith or morals is one thing, but telling you you can’t use a prayer form from another church in communion with the See of Peter seems a bit much. Frankly, if you were a former Anglican and enjoyed the Book of Common Prayer’s private prayers, I don’t think Rome could tell you not to use them if they assist you in your spiritual life and the prayers are properly based in sound theology.

The Liturgy of the Hours is not a private devotion but, the public prayer of the Church.

 

[JMJ_coder]

Actually, no, it is not. In Eastern diction “Liturgy” specifically means the Eucharistic Sacrifice.

Why is that? Could you go into further depth.

 

[JMJ_coder]

And what about praying the Hours from another rite. For instance, a Latin praying the Agpeya or the Maronite Office?

 

[5Loaves]

\There is the Roman Rite of the Latin Church,\

**Actually, the Roman Rite is NOT the only rite practiced in the Latin Church.

Ambrosian and Mozarabic rites have their own orders not only for Mass, but the Divine Office as well. The classical Ambrosian rite, unlike the others, did not recite the entire Psalter in a week.

The Benedictine Office had several differences from the Roman Office, even before Pius XI, especially in the arrangement of the Psalter.

And then there are the various uses of the Roman Office by Carmelites, Dominicans, and others.**

I didn’t mean to imply the Roman Rite is the only rite. The link I provided speaks of the other rites. Sorry if that was confusing.

See this post for more re: rites.

There are videos of some of these rites, ex: Ambrosian, Carmelite on YouTube.

Further off topic… there is a YouTube of the Sarum Use which isn’t listed in the usual list of rites/uses. I didn’t know until just recently that it was still celebrated. That came up around some Anglicans still using it. It’s even authorized for use by ROCOR parishes which I find especially unexpected.