Liturgy of the hours question

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So today is Sunday, and tomorrow is a solemnity (Birth of St. John the Baptist).
AND next Saurday is a solemnity (St. Peter and Paul)

My question - does anybody here know:
  1. what liturgy of the hours vespers is prayed this Sunday evening - second vespers of Sunday, or first vespers of tomorrow’s solemnity? or both?
  2. and next Saturday evening: 2. vespers of St. Peter and Paul, or 1. vespers of Sunday?
Thanks 🙂

Kathrin
 
Tonight’s vespers is for the Solemnity of the Birth of John the Baptist. Next Saturday evening’s vespers is for Saints Peter and Paul.
 
Kathrin,

You can always go to divineoffice.org – it will tell you what the hours are, even shows what pages you should be on.

If you prefer paper, there’s an inexpensive guide published every year, called the St. Joseph Guide for the Liturgy of the Hours. I don’t know if you can still find one for 2013, but they’re generally available sometime in November for the next year.
 
agnes_therese said:
Kathrin,

You can always go to divineoffice.org – it will tell you what the hours are, even shows what pages you should be on.

If you prefer paper, there’s an inexpensive guide published every year, called the St. Joseph Guide for the Liturgy of the Hours. I don’t know if you can still find one for 2013, but they’re generally available sometime in November for the next year.
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^^^This. Both paragraphs.
 
agnes_therese said:
Kathrin,

You can always go to divineoffice.org – it will tell you what the hours are, even shows what pages you should be on.

If you prefer paper, there’s an inexpensive guide published every year, called the St. Joseph Guide for the Liturgy of the Hours. I don’t know if you can still find one for 2013, but they’re generally available sometime in November for the next year.
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I use this guide for my volume of Christian Prayer and I never go anywhere without it, even if I do know what page to be on. I will still use this guide even when I buy the four volume set.

Blessings!
 
Thanks for the replies 🙂

So do I udnerstand that right, solemnities overrule Sundays, generally, in this respect?
 
Kathrin said:
Thanks for the replies 🙂

So do I udnerstand that right, solemnities overrule Sundays, generally, in this respect?
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Yes that is true

Now if it is Lent, Advent or in the Octave of Easter the Solemnity will be moved from the Sunday.
 
ok thank you 🙂

do you know whether a solemnity would also be moved from a Saturday or Monday then, so that the evening prayers don’t overlap?
My guess would be no?
 
Kathrin said:
ok thank you 🙂

do you know whether a solemnity would also be moved from a Saturday or Monday then, so that the evening prayers don’t overlap?
My guess would be no?
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No, I think the most usual is for the Feast to be moved from Sunday to Monday. I think one year with an early Holy Week St. Joseph was moved to the day before Palm Sunday. I guess that day there was no Evening Prayer II for St. Joe To be honest I don’t remember if we celebrate in on Monday what prayers I prayed Sunday evening.
 
Kathrin said:
Thanks for the replies 🙂

So do I udnerstand that right, solemnities overrule Sundays, generally, in this respect?
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Depends.

All volumes of the LOTH and Christian Prayer (if I remember right) right before the Proper of Seasons and General Calendar have a “Table of Liturgical Days”. That gives you the official hierarchy of what days are “higher” than others.

For example, Solemnities of Saints are listed at #3, and Sundays in Ordinary Time are #6. However, Sundays in Advent, Lent, and Easter are #2, and so would outrank a Solemnity (for example, St. Joseph on March 19 or Annunciation on March 25).

In Ordinary Time, all Solemnities and Feast of the Lord (Transfiguration, Exaltation of the Cross, Baptism, Presentation if in Ordinary Time) always outrank Sundays
 
curlycool89 said:
Depends.

All volumes of the LOTH and Christian Prayer (if I remember right) right before the Proper of Seasons and General Calendar have a “Table of Liturgical Days”. That gives you the official hierarchy of what days are “higher” than others.

For example, Solemnities of Saints are listed at #3, and Sundays in Ordinary Time are #6. However, Sundays in Advent, Lent, and Easter are #2, and so would outrank a Solemnity (for example, St. Joseph on March 19 or Annunciation on March 25).

In Ordinary Time, all Solemnities and Feast of the Lord (Transfiguration, Exaltation of the Cross, Baptism, Presentation if in Ordinary Time) always outrank Sundays
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Thanks for that reply.
And the higher order day is the one of which the prayer will be used, I believe then, right? 🙂
 
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