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TantumErgo90
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Does anyone know if the there will be a re-translation of the Liturgy of the Hours in English after the new translation of the missal is released?
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Sir_Hubert
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I am a Secular Carmelite and have been praying the Divine Office for many years. I try to keep up with the information coming out of the Vatican and have not heard anything about ‘re-translating’ the Liturgy of the Hours. After some thought on this I can’t see why there would be a need for a different translation. The changes in the Roman Missal are to be clearer translations from the Latin in only a few of the responses during Holy Mass. The Liturgy of the Hours translation is currently right from the New American Bible, and as I’m sure your aware mainly just the Psalms, Canticles and readings directly from scripture.The only thing I could imagine someone might look at to change would be the Antiphones, but on a whole, their pretty close to the Latin.
If I had a personal preference I’d change the English over to the RSVCE Bible … but that just me.
If I had a personal preference I’d change the English over to the RSVCE Bible … but that just me.
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AJV
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It is a complete translation affecting all parts- the responses and all the prayers.
The antiphons, the intercessions, the Second Reading, the responsories, the prayers and even the canticles are all translations.The Liturgy of the Hours translation is currently right from the New American Bible, and as I’m sure your aware mainly just the Psalms, Canticles and readings directly from scripture.The only thing I could imagine someone might look at to change would be the Antiphones, but on a whole, their pretty close to the Latin.
If I had a personal preference I’d change the English over to the RSVCE Bible … but that just me.
It’s quite comprehensive so I can imagine it taking a bit of a back seat. Also compared with the fact that quite a few people (from the laity) don’t pray it, it probably is not ranked very high on the “to do” scale?
I wonder though, whether they will give permission to use the newly translated Opening Prayers of the Missal for the Sundays, feriae of Easter, Lent and Advent and the saints or whether the old translation will still have to be used. Also whether the response will be “and with your spirit” or still “and also with you”.
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John_Lilburne
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They have not yet produced an approved translation of:
1984 Caeremoniale Episcoporum (Ceremonial of Bishops),
Roman Martyrology
Rite of Exorcism
I think the USA is the only English speaking country with an approved translation of the Book of Blessings.
As well as the 2002 Roman Missal, there is also work on a new Lectionary (with the committee for this headed by the Australian Bishop Mark Coleridge).
So I think a second translation of the Liturgy of the Hours is fairly low on the list of priorities for translating the liturgical books.
1984 Caeremoniale Episcoporum (Ceremonial of Bishops),
Roman Martyrology
Rite of Exorcism
I think the USA is the only English speaking country with an approved translation of the Book of Blessings.
As well as the 2002 Roman Missal, there is also work on a new Lectionary (with the committee for this headed by the Australian Bishop Mark Coleridge).
So I think a second translation of the Liturgy of the Hours is fairly low on the list of priorities for translating the liturgical books.
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drforjc
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I’ve heard from several sources that it will be, but that it is currently on the back burner due to the new translation of the missal.
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Windmill
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If you want, you can learn Latin and order the Latin LotH. Then you never have to worry about re-translating. Incidently, Vatican II said clerics are to say the Hours in Latin. It is by indult from the norm that they are allowed to pray it in the vernacular. I am taking a Latin course and hope to be able to pray the Latin LotH by next year. It takes work, but it’s a neat project.
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TantumErgo90
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Thanks for the quick responses. I was pondering whether to by the four volume set…and I thought that if the LOTH was going to be re-translated, I probably should wait.
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rpp
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Get the set. Pray the Hours. It is a wonderful devotion.
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TantumErgo90
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Actually I have decided to wait for the Baronius Press to release its Traditional Breviary.
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Cranch
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Do you mean to say that the Psalms in the 4-volume LOTH are from the NAB? Because after discussing just that question on these boards, I was assured that was not the case and that has proven accurate. The Psalms are The Grail (England) version of 1963.
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rpp
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I do not think the NAB was used for the Psalms or other canticles in the 4 volume LOTH, or the one-volume Christian Prayer or Shorter Christian Prayer. I think it was a separate translation. I say this because some of the psalms and canticles do seem to be different. But I am relying on my memory of the text, I have not made an actual comparison.
For the record.
The 4-volume LOTH translation set goes thusly:
Psalms: 1963 Grail except Psalm 95.
Psalm 95: ICEL
Canticles (with a few exceptions): 1970 NAB
Canticle of the Lamb: ICEL
Benedictus, Magnificat, Nunc Dimittis: ICET
Scripture readings: 1970 NAB
So no, the NAB isn’t used throughout; only for readings and Canticles.
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rpp
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Wow! Cool. Thank you, Porthos11!
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