Live Adoration From Poland (EWTN Polska)

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Please switch to full screen to see entire altar. This monstrance, the whole alter is something I have never seen before. Please be sure to turn video on.
 
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CatholicSooner said:
I don’t even see an altar
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This is why I was saying, one may need to make sure they push the arrow button and maybe go full screen… altar, well, maybe I used the wrong terminology. I have not seen something like this previously.
It actually changes colors throughout the hours too, I would not even try to describe what I see, it is almost too difficult.
 
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I’m not a fan. It would be very distracting.
Seems like something you’d see in protestanism (the technology)
 
Oh, well, I’ll disagree and I won’t see the BVM in protestantism. But we all have our different views… I mean, this is Poland, still holding on fast to the faith.

And where this is, Niepokalanow, has some historic roots with Catholicism, I just don’t know enough about it. Except this is where St. Maximilian’s Franciscan monastery may have been. A nice Basilica there.

Basilica of the Immaculate Conception:

http://niepokalanow.pl/en/

http://niepokalanow.pl/en/the-monastery/

St. Maximilian:

http://kolbianum.franciszkanie.pl/news.php

More in English: Niepokalanów | City of the Immaculate
 
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It’s more like a shrine area it looks like. It’s an adoration chapel, I’m sure that is sufficient as a description and I saw pictures of Pope Francis with this… I can not post that now, maybe later.
 
Wow. It’s definitely different. I’m not sure how I feel about it.
 
Niech będzie pochwalony Jezus Chrystus! (Praised be Jesus Christ)

I have been to Niepokalanow. Almost 30 years ago. Something like this seems almost like a miracle.
 
It certainly is different. At first watch, I’m more drawn to look at the Virgin Mary and the lighting, than at the exposed sacrament. (or is it exposed Christ?)
 
It’s different, I wondered a bit what others thought… it totally caught me by surprise… but as I said earlier, Pope Francis has been with it.

Dedicated website.

https://kaplica.niepokalanow.pl/en/

I’d say it is sort of modern art; and I have asked someone more knowledgeable in these things about this. I hope he can give me some insight. But I value just as much, the opinions of all the kind people here.

It appears the context is important, this is an “international center to pray for peace”… I mean, I posted this without knowing one thing about what we are looking at. Context, not like going to a parish having adoration I would say. In the end, the aim is the same.

Something to reflect on and I thank everyone for their responses. I feel like I’d almost have to see it personally…
 
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Okay, this tweet shows Pope Francis.

https://twitter.com/church(name removed by moderator)oland/status/1035037962038386688

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So, these are these “International Centers To Pray For Peace” and I believe one of the articles says there are 12 throughout the world… or at least, that is the plan. 12 as in the crown of stars of Mary.

From the video, I don’t know about being there but from videos, the light almost looks to bright… maybe not.
 
Just seems to me like a glorified version of the popular wooden monstrance of Mary holding the Eucharist in her arms. (This is used at one local church here and I’ve seen pictures of the same or similar monstrance on the Internet used at other churches.)

I guess if one doesn’t like the lighting one could go somewhere else.

I’m not bothered by it.
 
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It’s definitely different, but I like it. It would make more sense to me if the Blessed Sacrament were over her womb since she’s not holding it. But again very nice.
 
I was in Poland almost 30 years ago, shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism throughout the East Bloc. To get to Niepokalanow, you had to get off the main road from Warsaw to Lodz, then IIRC it was up a dirt road. The communist monuments and the Soviet cultural influence were still very much in evidence. That faith could flourish in such an environment is a testimony to the truth of the Catholic religion, and the eventual triumph of the cause of Christ.

There was an excellent mini-series called Amerika in 1987, about three years prior to this. The liberal media pooh-poohed the series as horrifically bad; on the contrary, it was one of the finest things ever shown on American TV. It lasts 14 hours and unfolds in a slow, deliberate manner more like you would see on European TV. After we were married, my (legal ex-) wife and I watched the series together. She said that it was actually pretty accurate. Soviet America was portrayed as a very dismal place. It very much resembled Warsaw, Lodz, and Niepokalanow at that time. The people’s will was pretty much destroyed and everything was dilapidated and a certain type of gray. The young people were being indoctrinated in the communist schools.

This is what I mean by saying the adoration chapel in Niepokalanow seems like a miracle.


 
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I guess if one doesn’t like the lighting one could go somewhere else.

I’m not bothered by it.
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It could be about it bothering one’s eyes by gazing on a bright light. No one said they didn’t like it.

“Don’t like it, go somewhere else”.

That’s not a very nice thing to say.

In fact, if one reads the above thread, one can see I defended this display from the opening.
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
There was an excellent mini-series called Amerika in 1987, about three years prior to this. The liberal media pooh-poohed the series as horrifically bad; on the contrary, it was one of the finest things ever shown on American TV. It lasts 14 hours and unfolds in a slow, deliberate manner more like you would see on European TV. After we were married, my (legal ex-) wife and I watched the series together. She said that it was actually pretty accurate. Soviet America was portrayed as a very dismal place. It very much resembled Warsaw, Lodz, and Niepokalanow at that time. The people’s will was pretty much destroyed and everything was dilapidated and a certain type of gray. The young people were being indoctrinated in the communist schools.
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That’s amazing, “Amerika”, I remember when it was brought up on TV. I had not thought of that show, mini-series in years.
 
You asked for our thoughts on it, I gave my honest thoughts. I’m not sure why you took them personally, or thought it was “not very nice”. Were you expecting everyone to share your same concern?

There are many churches offering Adoration in a simple setting in Poland, if one’s eyes are bothered by the light in one particular place or the setting is distracting. As you and others noted, this is a shrine for pilgrims devoted to Mary and St. Maximilian Kolbe. It’s not just a parish church.

It may also be that light looks a lot brighter on video than it does when you’re sitting there in person, for various reasons having to do with camera angles and lenses.
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
I was in Poland almost 30 years ago, shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism throughout the East Bloc. To get to Niepokalanow, you had to get off the main road from Warsaw to Lodz, then IIRC it was up a dirt road.
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I was there about 2 years ago. Niepokalanow is an easy train trip from Warsaw. I almost got there but due to the schedule of the trip I was on, I didn’t have time to go to Bl. Jerzy Popieluszcko’s grave and Niepokalanow both, so I opted for Blessed Jerzy’s church.

I’m sure Warsaw has improved since 30 years back, though still crumbly. The food is not great unless you just buy fresh things like bakery, meat and cheese, but there’s plenty to buy.
 
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I have not been there in 14 years, and probably will not be returning anytime soon. My son (age 12) is going with his mother this summer to visit his grandparents; he is not looking forward to the trip (he’s been there twice) but I have tried to get him to be OK with it, and I incorporate Polish themes into his homeschooling occasionally (discussion of the Holocaust, readings from Isaac Bashevis Singer, etc.). I have tried to explain to him how his grandparents suffered under the communists, but this is an abstraction to him. I hope he will in time come to appreciate this side of his heritage.

I found the food to be pretty awesome — simple country fare, which is precisely what I’m most fond of. There is nothing like a plate of kotlet schabowy (pork schnitzel) with potatoes and stewed cabbage.

 
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