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Are there any living catholic mystics and where are they?
in hidingAre there any living catholic mystics and where are they?
True… generally people who go around boasting how they have contact with God that others don’t are either insane or apostates… or both.in hiding
their gift is infused contemplation, intimate union with Christ in prayer which by its nature is a private thing. what is to share? if they are also called as spiritual directors, like Juan de la Cruz and Teresa, they will serve in that way, but probably without boasting of their mysticismBut don’t they want to share their gifts with people? Especially those in need?
Normally when souls become intimate with God it is a a very private affair. In the early days of monastacism in the desert the hermits went as far away from people as possible. They were often sought out by others and they tried to go hide, because contact with others meant they could not remain in contact with God. In cloisters, the saints tell us the more time they spend in the parlor or the room where visits with family or the public take place the more they are distracted from their prayer and union with God. Being in front of many people and being sought after and admired destroys initmacy with God and the soul. Saint Therese died at 24 in about 1895 and then became the most popular saint of the 20th century. Her life became public after her death. JPII gave ther the title doctor. Sanctity would have been impossible for her if she could not have had her life in Carmel. She would not have had anything to share unless she was able to have her cloistered life. The only reason anyone knows about her is she was ordered to write “Story of a Soul”. How many thousands of others have there been who lived and died unknown? We don’t know. Those who are intimate with God bring more grace into the world through their lives of prayer than those who go on the lecture circuit and write books. It is ancient wisdom that the contemplative life is more grace filled than the active life, but it depends on what the person’s calling is. There are a few mystics who are called to public life, like Catherine of Sienna. Most remain hidden.But don’t they want to share their gifts with people? Especially those in need?
They do. In a quiet way that does not put a spotlight on themselves.But don’t they want to share their gifts with people? Especially those in need?
I’ve felt it too, and my parents don’t trust the person I speak of because the idea of sincerity is sooooooo foreign to them. It’s sad. In fact, it is down right depressing.I agree with you CB, for I also have been in the presence of a few holy people in whom I sense a very profound degree of union with God. Sometimes God lets us recognize that, through His Holy Spirit dwelling in us, and also in the other.
Might this not have been the case with Simeon who knew his Messiah when Mary and Joseph brought Jesus to the temple? We celebrate the Presentation today, and since I have this mystery in my thoughts and reflections, I just wanted to share.
I agree with you CB, for I also have been in the presence of a few holy people in whom I sense a very profound degree of union with God. Sometimes God lets us recognize that, through His Holy Spirit dwelling in us, and also in the other.
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I’m with you on this. I think there are a goodly number of real mystics around. But I don’t think they think they are extraordinary at all, and most definitely don’t call attention to themselves.
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I agree…but I also think there are many around who don’t even recognise themselves as mystics. It is only after their death and people read their journals that they discover the depth of that person’s union with God.I agree with you CB, for I also have been in the presence of a few holy people in whom I sense a very profound degree of union with God. Sometimes God lets us recognize that, through His Holy Spirit dwelling in us, and also in the other.
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I’m with you on this. I think there are a goodly number of real mystics around. But I don’t think they think they are extraordinary at all, and most definitely don’t call attention to themselves.