Living Without Moral Convictions

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Dearly beloved,

It is much easier for man to be guided by the Ten Commandments, athough as one observes the moral bedlam of our contemporary world, one could be forgiven for thinking that such was the case.

Myriads of our fellow men are living without moral convictions; their only firm belief appears to be tolerrance and allowing each man to ‘flourish’ physically and emotionally according to his own choosing, the only caveat being that he does not harm others whilst pursuing his happiness. However this is too simplistic for words, for if there are no moral absolutes and non-negotiable truths then there can be no consensus as to what is right or wrong. All truth becomes a very relative affair and results in a man being carried along a subjective path to an ultimate qaugmire of competing opinions, a rather silly sort of situation where everybody is right and yet nobody is wrong and where there is a morbid and unhealthy dislike of dogmatism. It is hardly surprising that in this climate of moral nebulousness and laxity, validly held beliefs, especially of the religious variety, are deemed to be unacceptable or merely a matter of private opinion. This is not because they are untrue but because they are at variance with the current prevailing wisdom or are somehow considered politically incorrect and restrictive.

Therefore, a traditional orthodox Catholic or Protestant might well find himself branded a facist or a ‘homophobe’ when all he is doing is being authentically Christian and loyal to Sacred Scripture and the Church’s teaching. As an example let us take the case of Mr. Rocco Buttiglione, a minister in the Italian government, who was selected to be justice minister for Europe. During questioning he admitted that he was a Catholic and that he believed, quite rightly, that homosexual conduct was sinful but that it was a sin that should not be a crime. This admission disqualified him from taking up office as his moral convictions were held to be “in direct contradiction of European law”. Mr. Buttiglione aptly described this as the “new totalitarianism”. Evidently, the moral law of God is inconsequential in modern Europe. Now clearly this state of affairs cannot last because only allegiance and submission to God’s truth can bring any genuine cohesion to our disordered world.

Alas, even within the bosom of Holy Mother Church there are those dissidents who perversely refuse to consent or comply with the whole truth of the teaching of Sacred Scripture and, as consequence, have introduced schism and opposing sections. Political correctness does not serve the Church or further its mission in the world; men need to hear God’s unalloyed truth and not some attenuated and paletable version of it. Look, giving people what they want to hear and not the whole unadulterated truth is just cheating them and being downright unfair to them. It is a little like giving an adolecent a diet of fast food rather than good, wholsesome and nourishing meals, which is what they require for their physical and mental well-being.

The Archbishop of Prague said that Muslims were now well placed to fill the spiritual void created, as Europeans empty Christian doctrine of its true content so that they can live as they please. An aggressive secularism has left a deep spiritual vacuum and Christians, Catholic and Protestant, are culpable for abandoning their roots. It is imperative that they find their way back to “the ancient paths, where the good way is; and walk in it” (Jer. 6: 16); back to the traditional teaching and discipline of the Church. Our beautiful Faith is being rejected all over Europe and, I suspect, in North America also. Do we really care about this deplorable state of affairs?

Let us do our bit to try to reverse this unacceptable trend by striving to live pure and holy lives and to be loyal to our Church and its doctrine.

Warmest good wishes,

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Dearly beloved,

Our beautiful Faith is being rejected all over Europe and, I suspect, in North America also. Do we really care about this deplorable state of affairs?

Let us do our bit to try to reverse this unacceptable trend by striving to live pure and holy lives and to be loyal to our Church and its doctrine.

Portrait
The concern in your post is very imminent and true.

Things are going absurd. The word “God” is not allowed to be mentioned in public. The ten commandments cannot be displayed. The case of Mr. Rocco Buttiglione, a minister in the Italian government you mentioned is not unusual. Whoever stand up for his faith may be persecuted. It happens here too. An example immediately comes to mind is what happened in Miss America beauty contest 2009. Miss California Carrie Prejean was questioned by judge Perez Hilton about gay marriage. She answered that marriage should be between a man and a woman and lost her chance to become Miss America. I applaud people like Mr. Buttiglione and Miss Prejean. Jesus said we have to drink his cup. There is a price to pay when we follow the truth. And we must follow the truth.

What could you and I do in such a chaos ?

Every time I witness the lack of moral convictions of the world, I feel a stronger need of becoming a saint. If all Jesus’ followers earnestly work toward holiness, there will be hope for this decaying world. A journey of thousand miles starts from a single step. Like you said, let’s start by becoming the best version of ourselves. And pray. God bless!
 
The concern in your post is very imminent and true.

Things are going absurd. The word “God” is not allowed to be mentioned in public. The ten commandments cannot be displayed. The case of Mr. Rocco Buttiglione, a minister in the Italian government you mentioned is not unusual. Whoever stand up for his faith may be persecuted. It happens here too. An example immediately comes to mind is what happened in Miss America beauty contest 2009. Miss California Carrie Prejean was questioned by judge Perez Hilton about gay marriage. She answered that marriage should be between a man and a woman and lost her chance to become Miss America. I applaud people like Mr. Buttiglione and Miss Prejean. Jesus said we have to drink his cup. There is a price to pay when we follow the truth. And we must follow the truth.

What could you and I do in such a chaos ?

Every time I witness the lack of moral convictions of the world, I feel a stronger need of becoming a saint. If all Jesus’ followers earnestly work toward holiness, there will be hope for this decaying world. A journey of thousand miles starts from a single step. Like you said, let’s start by becoming the best version of ourselves. And pray. God bless!
Dear InLight247,

Thankyou most kindly for the above and, thus far, only response to my posting.

Our lot is truly cast in very troublous times and the days are very evil indeed. This is why it is so vitally important that the faithful strive daily to live up to the arduous and mandatory demands of their religion; holiness is not some optional extra for the really earnest and committed but a requirement for all who name the name of Christ. As B.F. Westcott said holiness is “preparation for the presence of God”; we have, by our Baptism into Christ, been separated unto God and so it is incumbent upon us to live a life that befits those who are so separated. No holiness, no heaven is the watchword. The whole course of this life is a state of probation in which we must “work out our salvation with fear and trembling”. Alas, I see all too little evidence of this in the contemporary Church and more a desire to walk hand in hand with the world and to cling on to as many of its questionable pleasures as possible. Those who settle for this Laodicean lukewarmness are a disgrace to the cause of Christ and are, incontrovertibly, impeding the Church’s mission by their worldliness and half-heartedness.

We will not thwart the efforts and designs of evil men by orthodoxy alone, we must also lead pure and holy lives in the midst of a “crooked and perverse generation” and shine as a beacon of light amidst the darkness and encircling gloom. Please God may it be so.

If we live as pilgrims upon the earth, as we surely should, and show the reality of our heavenly calling, made evident by our renunciation of the world, then we declare in a most powerful manner that our true homeland is in heaven - “For the people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland…they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city” (Hebrews 11: 14, 16).

Again, thankyou my dear friend for your words of support and may our God be with you each day as you pursue the holiness “without which no one will see the Lord” (Hebrews 12: 14).

Warmest good wishes and prayers,

Portrait:tiphat:
 
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The whole course of this life is a state of probation in which we must “work out our salvation with fear and trembling”.
If we live as pilgrims upon the earth, as we surely should, and show the reality of our heavenly calling, made evident by our renunciation of the world, then we declare in a most powerful manner that our true homeland is in heaven.
… Pursue the holiness “without which no one will see the Lord” (Hebrews 12: 14).
Portrait:tiphat:
Dear Portrait,

Well said!

How true and important it is to start with personal holiness before we can expect the world to be a better place. Our world is in trouble from physical to moral, to spiritual aspect. The earth is terribly abused. Natural resources are greatly endangered. Moral standard is down the drain. Black is taken as white, white as black.

In such a world like Sodom and Gomorrah, if we, the Jesus’ followers don’t become the beacon of the world, who else will be? If we don’t become the five righteous men in the sinful city, who else will be? We need to take the Gospel seriously and really live it, become holy, and shine our lights to influence those around.

Talking about working toward holiness, a question of “What is holiness?” was once asked by my spiritual director in our session. I find it very helpful to reflect upon it. It’s easier to achieve a goal with a clear standard and definition. May you be richly blessed on your journey toward holiness.

Thanks for your prayers and my prayers are for you too.
 
Dear Portrait,

Well said!

How true and important it is to start with personal holiness before we can expect the world to be a better place. Our world is in trouble from physical to moral, to spiritual aspect. The earth is terribly abused. Natural resources are greatly endangered. Moral standard is down the drain. Black is taken as white, white as black.

In such a world like Sodom and Gomorrah, if we, the Jesus’ followers don’t become the beacon of the world, who else will be? If we don’t become the five righteous men in the sinful city, who else will be? We need to take the Gospel seriously and really live it, become holy, and shine our lights to influence those around.

Talking about working toward holiness, a question of “What is holiness?” was once asked by my spiritual director in our session. I find it very helpful to reflect upon it. It’s easier to achieve a goal with a clear standard and definition. May you be richly blessed on your journey toward holiness.

Thanks for your prayers and my prayers are for you too.
Dear InLight247,

Thankyou for your response above.

For your meditation my dear friend:

What is holiness? “A holy man is a man in whom Christ lives again”.

Blessings abundant be upon you and may God’s peace be yours now and always.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait
 
What is holiness?“A holy man is a man in whom Christ lives again”.

Portrait
That is a good answer.
My initial response to the question was similar: “Holiness is to be Christ like.”
But a more specific answer, served as a standard to fall back on, should be helpful on the journey.

So, I would say holiness is purity of heart with generous action of love.
Again, we can break purity and love into more details, and reflect on them …

God bless!
 
my experience, mainly through RCIA, is that the true moral relativists are not atheists, they are Christians who have rejected all or part of the teachings of their own faith because they are not willing to be bound by its moral teachings. Most atheists in my experience have gone out of their way to construct a personal morality and ethical framework to guide their lives and are more strict with themselves than are many religionists.
 
my experience, mainly through RCIA, is that the true moral relativists are not atheists, they are Christians who have rejected all or part of the teachings of their own faith because they are not willing to be bound by its moral teachings. Most atheists in my experience have gone out of their way to construct a personal morality and ethical framework to guide their lives and are more strict with themselves than are many religionists.
Dear puzzleannie,

Cordial greetings and thankyou most kindly for your comments above.

Christians who refuse to accept the circumscribed doctrinal and moral limits imposed by the Church are, of course, guilty of heresy and schism. Moreover, those Christians who fall into heresy on faith and morals so often finish up embracing positions and opinions that are hardly distinguishable from those held by atheistic freethinkers, e.g. acceptance and support of homosexual deviant acts and abortion, to name but a few.

Whilst atheists, as with all of mankind, have a built in ethical intuition that enables them to distinguish right from wrong, owing to the Fall and Original Sin their moral facuties no longer operate flawlessly. Thus any basic ethical system that they may sincerely devise is necessarily going to be faulty and imperfect at some point. True, their conscience may attest to the natural and moral law, but it cannot reliably inform them as to what the requirements of this law are. Men are influenced by the standards, practices and prejudices of the fallen world in which they live and their moral perception is easily warped. Moreover, their own erroneous desires can distort their understanding of what is right and wrong, both doctrinally and morally. This has been made abundantly plain to me in a thread here at CAF that I was recently involved in (“Can Homosexuality Be Proved Wrong From Natural Law”). Hence the necessity for divine Revelation and the Church in order that men can ascertain correctly the truth respecting faith and morals.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait
 
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