Logic and religion

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religions all claim logic and in the other religions they sometimes say that catholic
religion is devoid of logic. aside from the miracles which all religions have, and for love,
which ties things together, how do the religion, catholic keep track of everything said and written
about God. Sometimes it depends on who you talk to to determine what means what?
example, some saint say sin is relative to you as a person. other say it is absolute on the
command of 10 commandments. can i have an answer that is logic?
 
Not all religions teach logic and reason.

But do you have specifics?
Sins are based on a moral absolute, but our knowledge and will affect it.
 
I assumed you needed logic to teach anything.
Jesus and ‘Paul’s gospel’ are very logical.
I meant the Saints. They all use different reasons, which is logic in my opinion.
Some say certain things.
I remember reading some one, I couldn’t even understand the reason’s
for the quotes to Jesus. It seemed like they contradicted each other
and I got confused.
 
Not understanding something doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense.
It just means we do not understand.
 
How can you say that everything is clear and obvious?
Why blame me for my finding that something is not clear?
 
I’m simply saying that you likely didn’t understand what was being said.
I can make no comment on the material to which you are referring as you do not remember it.
There was most likely a mystical importance that you did not understand or such.
This is not a bad thing, it means we have the ability to learn more. The Catholic Faith is very rich and deep.
 
I see. I guess i jumped to conclusion.
my main question was how do they keep track of all the saints writings?
is what a saint says as good as what Jesus said?
what if saint x say this, and says y says something different.

example would be that Paul sets the level at which people are condemned much lower than
Jesus. He even call’s his writing s Paul’s Gospel. Is that good to do?
 
A saint is not Jesus.
Their opinions are simply opinions. They are fallible men. Exceptionally holy fallible men.

I disagree about St Paul.
 
The statement about Paul’s gospel, setting the level lower than Jesus. I disagree.
 
Before I ask you to clarify, it was an inference I made based on his sometime graphic vilification of the pagans.
But, do you think he is more lenient?
 
I don’t have the context of the conversation so I can’t comment in specifics.
 
sound like you think he is either more or less lenient depending on the specific question,
or else you would have answered in general and provided your own characteristic specific?
 
You mean St Paul, the writer of the various letters of the Bible, compared to Jesus?
If so, then I’d say St Paul is very Orthodox in his teachings, doesn’t shy away from listing various forms of sinners that will not inherit the kingdom of God, but understands mercy.
 
Exactly, he is more orthodox.
Jesus adjusts his level of demand it seems to fit the individual’s whole-ness.
Paul, yes St Paul, the writer of the various letters of the Bible, compared to Jesus is more one size fits all.
And he cuts a very narrow ranged size. Many people naked and trembling in Paul’s Gospel.
 
I would disagree.
Paul is of course speaking in general as council to the congregation.
Jesus is shown speaking to specific people.

However, I would say it is quite the same.

Do you have any example that seems different to you?
 
on the body: Jesus healed it constantly. blindness deafness lameness fevers epilepsy insanity to some extent even a dead body like lazurus. Paul says it is evil in accord with the law of sin.
Why would Jesus heal a body if it was evil?

Jesus looked at a rich man with and then the man turned away because he was wealthy and not ready to give up his possessions. I suppose Paul is lenient in charity also, but he can’t adjust his writing the way Jesus adjusted his expectations and gave out love to all.

Paul identifies enemies of the congregation – forces “within your church” he call them I think, Jesus really lets the sun shine on the good and bad alike. Jesus knows the mind of the person, Paul is trying to set a standard, making a guess on people’s needs based on what he hears. Jesus knows.
 
First off, the idea that St Paul hated the body and thought it evil is misplaced.
He said the desires of the flesh were undesirable and against the desires of the Spirit.
I believe this could be a reference to original sin, ie the sin of Adam which brought original sin and concupescience, which puts upon one certain inclinations and desires that are and gains righteousness.

Jesus knows everyone’s Hearts, He is the Lord. He called those in sin to repentance.
 
Oh. I thought he just said that the law of the body is sin. the law of the mind, spirit.
“TO die is to gain” and cannot refer to the mind.
 
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