Logical issue on the Son's merits and grace poured on Mary

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Rev 13:8: “. . . the Lamb who was slain from the creation (or foundation) of the world.”

I take it to mean that Christ’s sacrifice was always, eternally, part of His nature. Not that He specifically had a human body which was sacrificed before the world was made, but that it’s who He is.
So His sacrifice could be applied to anyone, at any time, by God.
And thus it didn’t have to have already happened it time? Because I read this as saying from the moment the world was, so at the very moment time began.
 
And thus it didn’t have to have already happened it time? Because I read this as saying from the moment the world was, so at the very moment time began.
Moreover, another version reads

All the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, all whose names were not written from the foundation of the world in the book of life, which belongs to the Lamb who was slain.

So the temporal expression from the foundation of the world is here meant for the people, not about the death of the Lamb.
I think in both cases, Jesus’ body has nothing to do with what is talked about here. We needed the Incarnation to have the Sacrifice, but what we see here is the concept of the Sacrifice, without talking about the historical event.
 
I will try once again to write my thoughts down:

Mary needed a saviour.
She was saved at her conception, by grace.
What saves us is our faith and works, but also Jesus’ death for us.
This sacrifice needed to be actual, on a human, because God cannot die. Jesus had to be incarnated, and die.
After that, Jesus ascended to Heaven with His body too.

So my question is: What saves is also Jesus’ death, actual, real. Since this grace by the sacrifice was applied to Mary in advence, how do we show that Jesus didn’t have to have a body, the one which He would sacrifice to obtain redemption for us?
 
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